Coucil housing - do you get priority if you have a MH disability

Glen_Clark

rockingbilly wrote: »

From memory the average cost of a meal for a prisoner is £2.10,

Thats about the cost per day - not per meal.
Quick google got this: http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/prisoners-being-fed-2-per-10418407

Tommo1980

The quality of meals and portion sizes will vary between prisons. I was merely passing on an opinion of the food in one particular institution, in comparison to others that my friend has experienced.

Glen Starva I believe the place was nicknamed amongst inmates.

Tom

teddysmum

Londonsu wrote: »

You can get dogs that don't cause allergies, a friend has a cavapoo (cavalier spaniel poodle cross) and they are good for people with allergies but these are very expensive but it may be worth contacting your local dog shelter to see if they have a rescue dog that may be suitable

Please don't recommend this 'breed'. They are expensive because greedy people have convinced gullible ones that 'designer' dogs, actually just cross breeds, hundreds or which languish in rescues, are valuable.


If the OP wants a non-shedding dog, a poodle (and several others ) would fit the bill, without crossing two breeds with known genetic heart problems (MVD); that crossing making the condition more likely.

rockingbilly

Glen_Clark wrote: »

Thats about the cost per day - not per meal.
Quick google got this: http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/prisoners-being-fed-2-per-10418407

That's even worse from a hospital inpatient's point of view.

I do actually believe the hospital figure after spending 7 weeks in one and refusing to eat the crap they served up. Breakfast was dry, stale bread (2 slices) with no butter. cereal (non branded and stale) along with watered down milk - no sugar.
I can't describe what supper was as it was indescribable.
Over the 7 weeks I lost 3 stone in weight!!!

Prisons with double the budget would have been like heaven by comparison.

Londonsu

teddysmum wrote: »

Please don't recommend this 'breed'. They are expensive because greedy people have convinced gullible ones that 'designer' dogs, actually just cross breeds, hundreds or which languish in rescues, are valuable.


If the OP wants a non-shedding dog, a poodle (and several others ) would fit the bill, without crossing two breeds with known genetic heart problems (MVD); that crossing making the condition more likely.

Why don't you read posts instead of latching on to just bits as I said but it may be worth contacting your local dog shelter to see if they have a rescue dog that may be suitable

I know several people who have these dogs who have allergies and I also know that there is a lot of information about heart problems from good breeders and owners it's well known.


I have 3 Pugs 2 from Pups and a rescue one (soon to be 4 getting another rescue one tomorrow) my 2 rescue ones are a casualty of the Pug craze so I know only too well the problem with trendy dogs but I am in contact daily with Pug owner sites, know a great deal about the breed myself and I can manage any problems, I have 3 happy totally healthy dogs with all issues managed and I know the health issues of my next one.


I fully agree BTW with adopt don't shop but in the context of the post was trying to give the OP some alternatives because I could see that they were not going to get the house they wanted just because they wanted a dog

teddysmum

Londonsu wrote: »

Why don't you read posts instead of latching on to just bits as I said but it may be worth contacting your local dog shelter to see if they have a rescue dog that may be suitable

I know several people who have these dogs who have allergies and I also know that there is a lot of information about heart problems from good breeders and owners it's well known.


I have 3 Pugs 2 from Pups and a rescue one (soon to be 4 getting another rescue one tomorrow) my 2 rescue ones are a casualty of the Pug craze so I know only too well the problem with trendy dogs but I am in contact daily with Pug owner sites, know a great deal about the breed myself and I can manage any problems, I have 3 happy totally healthy dogs with all issues managed and I know the health issues of my next one.


I fully agree BTW with adopt don't shop but in the context of the post was trying to give the OP some alternatives because I could see that they were not going to get the house they wanted just because they wanted a dog

I did read all your post, but the OP could be informed that there are non-shedding dogs without recommending a designer breed; especially surprising as you have connections with rescues. (I have cavaliers and have seen the devastating effect of MVD and a friend likewise with poodles).


Unfortunately non-shedding dogs are not the answer to all allergies. We had a next door neighbour , whose son couldn't even have one of these, as like others, the allergy was to skin dander and not the hair.


An ideal solution would be to help at a rescue, benefitting dogs and the OP himself (chance to meet others with similar interests). It would also be a less risky way, for Mum, to see if she can tolerate being with someone who doesn't live with but does interact with dogs.

teddysmum

Londonsu wrote: »

Why don't you read posts instead of latching on to just bits as I said but it may be worth contacting your local dog shelter to see if they have a rescue dog that may be suitable

I know several people who have these dogs who have allergies and I also know that there is a lot of information about heart problems from good breeders and owners it's well known.


I have 3 Pugs 2 from Pups and a rescue one (soon to be 4 getting another rescue one tomorrow) my 2 rescue ones are a casualty of the Pug craze so I know only too well the problem with trendy dogs but I am in contact daily with Pug owner sites, know a great deal about the breed myself and I can manage any problems, I have 3 happy totally healthy dogs with all issues managed and I know the health issues of my next one.


I fully agree BTW with adopt don't shop but in the context of the post was trying to give the OP some alternatives because I could see that they were not going to get the house they wanted just because they wanted a dog

I did read your whole post and agree about rescues, but especially as you know about the problems of your breed, am concerned about suggesting a designer breed and especially one which which increases the chances of sick animals (I have cavaliers and a friend had poodles, so know about the devastating effects of the disease the breeds share.) I don't know of anyone, in rescue, who promotes deliberate crossing when kennels are full of such dogs.


There are lots of non-shedding breeds without money makers' crosses, but unfortunately, non-shedders are not the answer for everyone. Our ex-neighbours' son could not have any dog, as like other allergy sufferers, it was the dander which caused his reaction and not the hair.


Helping at a rescue would be the best way for the OP to 'have' a dog, without all the responsibility, which can be quite stressful, especially when they are old or sick. The dogs would benefit from walks, he'd have people and dogs to interact with and it would be a safer way to see if his mum can tolerate being near someone who is around but doesn't live with dogs.

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I also agree, finding a rescue centre and helping them would not only get you used to how to cope with dogs, the problems people have with them but would also expand your socialising skills.

It could make you feel like you are doing something useful as well. If I had one near me, its certainly something I'd do.

It will also give you experience of how many dogs have to be given up when people change properties - from a LL who permits dogs to one who won't.

There are single person properties on council lists that will allow dogs, but very few with gardens, so that means walks in the middle of the night. Not something I'd enjoy. Having a dog might be more difficult in supported housing.

My son (who has ASD) considered supported housing until he realised he'd be paying a vastly inflated rent (or the council would) and 'support' meant someone popping in and asking if you are ok. Its a bit of a change from having mum around 24/7.., particularly if you sometimes have crisis. The property seemed really nice, but in need of repair and cleaning. None of which was done by the time residents were moving in. It was run by an agency who also provided PA's (don't ask.., terrible service) so I'm afraid I was a bit sceptical as to their aims. I suspect the well being of the residents wasn't top of the list. Sorry, my eyes were opened by this agency. I'm sure some good ones exist, just haven't found one yet.

The moral is, check out supported housing very carefully, what services are provided etc.

If you do have a problem with mood management, see what help you can get with that before moving out of home.

To answer your original question.., having the conditions your describe will make you 'vulnerable' as far as the council is concerned. But you also need to be assessed as being in 'housing need' i.e. being evicted, living in overcrowded or unsafe conditions. I'm afraid wanting a dog doesn't qualify for that. Are there any other reasons you want to move out?

Londonsu

teddysmum wrote: »

I did read your whole post and agree about rescues, but especially as you know about the problems of your breed, am concerned about suggesting a designer breed and especially one which which increases the chances of sick animals (I have cavaliers and a friend had poodles, so know about the devastating effects of the disease the breeds share.) I don't know of anyone, in rescue, who promotes deliberate crossing when kennels are full of such dogs.


There are lots of non-shedding breeds without money makers' crosses, but unfortunately, non-shedders are not the answer for everyone. Our ex-neighbours' son could not have any dog, as like other allergy sufferers, it was the dander which caused his reaction and not the hair.


Helping at a rescue would be the best way for the OP to 'have' a dog, without all the responsibility, which can be quite stressful, especially when they are old or sick. The dogs would benefit from walks, he'd have people and dogs to interact with and it would be a safer way to see if his mum can tolerate being near someone who is around but doesn't live with dogs.

I am happy to be corrected, I wasn't aware as people I know who do have one don't seem to have had problems.

System

I think you can get priotiry if your housing situation is worsening your MH condition (i say i think because i'm currently in a houseshare with strangers which is worsening my MH, haven;t cooked a meal in over 2 years because of the anxiety of living here and apparently that doesn't count for anything). I'm not sure wanting a dog would be sufficient reaason unless it was a thearpy dog (which i dont think we have for MH in the UK yet)