Job app'n to join santander - reference information form

PHILANTHROPIST

Just wondering if any members are in process of joining Santander, or have recently joined, and have seen the above form, and recollect or know it's content.

Ta

daytona0

Santander... *shudder*

PHILANTHROPIST

Why "shudder" ?

da_rule

Having just read their recruitment procedure, it would seem that this is just a way of confirming the contact details for your referees. They then use these details to go and obtain the references.

https://www.wearesantander.co.uk/before-you-start

PHILANTHROPIST

Agree , just need to know what specifically is included on the Santander "reference information form".

Reality is that a friend applied to join them 7 months back (mid July 2016), and commenced work in mid August 2016.

From what she recollects there was a box to tick asking if she had a record of disciplinary proceedings . Truth was she was on suspension during the reruitment period, but that is of course NOT a disciplinary process. Two days before she left her old job (12 August) the "investigation" during suspension was comcluded, this led to a disciplinary hearing two days later and she was summarily dismissed on her last day of work. Fact is that the whole process was a sham (yes, she would say that, but it was) and as she had handed her notice in anyhow, she could not be arsed defending the ludicrous allegations, and elected to just move on ,didn't bother appealing or taking an Unfair Dismissal claim to Emp't Tribunal etc.

Her old employer gave her a bog standard reference, and also made no reference to any suspension etc.

She was also bullied by a former colleague.

Anyhow, yesterday she's hauled into a meeting with Santander HR and they tell her that her an ex colleague had contacted Santander and informed them that my friend had been dismissed. As a result Santander jump to conclusion that my friend had lied in the app'n process as she did not tell them about the above.

It is my opinion that Santander should not accuse of her lying as I think that when applying to the bank you only have to tick a box on the reference inf'n form IF you have been subject of disc proccedings. At the time of applying for and accepting job, she had not ; she was merely suspended.

Yes, in theory she could have told Santander about the sham disciplinary and outcome when she joined, but there is no implied duty in law on an employee to do so.

da_rule

Unless there was some clause in any of the recruitment paperwork stating that if any of the situations asked about changed she had a duty to tell them.

PHILANTHROPIST

yes, da rule that's why I'm trying to obtain a copy of the "reference information form" ; to check specific wording.

She is pretty certain it made no reference to inform re changes/ updates etc post accepting job offer in late July 2016. In law there is definitely no implied duty on an employee to do so.

da_rule

https://www.wearesantander.co.uk/documents/16600/7215098/HR00401_AUG12+RIF+Guidance+Notes+Exernal+Candidates.pdf/e222f175-79e2-4d30-be06-55a652e60250

Have you seen this? It's the guide for completing the form. It mentions the disciplinary question but doesn't say that there is any obligation to inform them if it changes in the interim period.

Also, has she checked any employee handbook that might exist?

TELLIT01

How is being suspended on a disciplinary issue? Why else would somebody be under suspension at work? It seems she lied, has been caught out and is now likely to suffer the consequences.
It makes little difference if you want to play semantics. She has been with them under 2 years so they can put her straight back out the door without giving any reason. A financial institution needs to be sure that employees are honest.

da_rule

TELLIT01 wrote: »

How is being suspended on a disciplinary issue? Why else would somebody be under suspension at work? It seems she lied, has been caught out and is now likely to suffer the consequences.
It makes little difference if you want to play semantics. She has been with them under 2 years so they can put her straight back out the door without giving any reason. A financial institution needs to be sure that employees are honest.

Suspension isn't actually considered a disciplinary action or sanction. It is used to ensure that an allegation can be investigated without the person influencing or prejudicing the investigation. It is perfectly possible for someone to be suspended and then return to work with no proceedings against them if the investigation finds there is no case to answer. They can say that they have never been disciplined or had disciplinary action taken against them or been sanctioned.

PHILANTHROPIST

Yes, you are right da rule. To be blunt, Tellit is talking out of their exterior.

Yep, I have seen the wearesantander guff .... and yes, it does not appear to say ought about changes .... OR being under suspension for that matter.

Ideally need a copy of the actual form. Can ask Santander to supply, but like most HR staff they are incompetent and biased.

Yes, with less than 2 yrs employers can normally do whatever they want, but friend is disabled, and that's why she was bullied and picked on in last job. Thus her new employer needs to tread more carefully. She has already been called a wheelchair freak by new colleagues. Nice.