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How quickly should Britain leave the EU.
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merrydance wrote: »As far as I can make out the EU aren't that bothered about us leaving, seems strange as we pay so much money in, you would think they would be trying to keep us.
To keep us in. Would on essence represent an admission of defeat. Others then demanding special treatment. No one will admit that the current project isn't working for everyone. That's the fault line that's going to erupt at some point in the future.0 -
So I ask, should Britain get out sooner rather than later.
Why can't Britain leave the day after PM May triggers A50.
Should Britian hang in there for the full 2 years.
We have signed and are bound by an international treaty, revoking it unilaterally would say a lot about our respect for international treaties.
We agreed to leave after A50 is triggered, after 2 years or earlier by agreement.Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.0 -
The two years is the maximum period allowed. Extension is only allowed by agreement with all party's.
Get it... the maximum time. If agreement is reached Britain can leave before two years is up.
Britain can just leave if it wants to. There is no rule, law or regulation that stops Britain leaving. It might be messy, but as the old EU saying goes "you don't make omelets without breaking eggs"
I think you are wrong.
" The Treaties shall cease to apply to the State in question from the date of entry into force of the withdrawal agreement or, failing that, two years after the notification referred to in paragraph 2......"
I grant you that if all concerned agreed we could have a meaningless agreement and leave the day after Article 50 was invoked, but it does require an AGREEMENT. After two years we do not need an agreement.
The bit in bold contradicts the previous sentence which is about an agreementFew people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.0 -
The longer we stay, the more we pay in – a maximum of two years (though I think this is too long). We can get a broad agreement on basic principles sooner (i.e. we control migration to our country, we get to set our own laws, and so on), and attend to details after we've left. I don't see why we can't, for example, take EU laws with us, and adapt them as we deem necessary to suit our country.
An agreement requires two parties to agree!!!
By your logic you would agree to buy a car and then after it was delivered you could debate whether it included or excluded an engine.
But I do think that if we can reach an agreement earlier than two years we should do so.Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.0 -
merrydance wrote: »As far as I can make out the EU aren't that bothered about us leaving, seems strange as we pay so much money in, you would think they would be trying to keep us.
Sounds like a good reason for the EU27 not to reach an agreement until A50 plus 2 years.;)Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.0 -
Whenever have you known the EU negotiate anything in a timely manner?
Who do you think can make it's mind up quicker on a particular issue? A single state, or a bunch of 27 different states all seeking their own advantage.
It's pretty obvious that progress on certain issues will not be made until key elections complete amongst certain European states. Politicians up for election will need to posture to their electorates.
Frankly, you should be asking this question with your Euro mates out in Luxembourg.
They say just before the summer holidays.There will be no Brexit dividend for Britain.0 -
The_Last_Username wrote: »I think, gfplux, that you are soon to discover that the UK is not the timid, no-hope, out-of-ideas and "in no position to negotiate" country as far as leaving the EU is concerned that some think.
The British lion is about to bare it's teeth in the face of prolonged EU derision.
Beware, EU.
You may find that this lion bites too.
Two years max.
I suspect it will not take that long.
I hope so. Before the summer holidays is perhaps a good bet.There will be no Brexit dividend for Britain.0 -
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as quickly as possible!EU expat working in London0
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