How quickly should Britain leave the EU.

cogito

merrydance wrote: »

Just curious - I know we pay a lot into the EU but does anybody know how much we get back?

Not very much. But according to some posters on here, it's the price we pay for membership of the single market which sort of begs the question why more than 20 EU members are in the single market but are actually paid for the privilege.

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

merrydance wrote: »

Just curious - I know we pay a lot into the EU but does anybody know how much we get back?

Estimates vary - but this one is as good as any....

the net benefit of EU membership to the UK could be in the region of 4-5% of GDP or £62bn-£78bn a year – roughly the economies of the North East and Northern Ireland taken together.

http://www.cbi.org.uk/insight-and-analysis/our-global-future/factsheets/factsheet-2-benefits-of-eu-membership-outweigh-costs/

Around ten times the net amount that we pay in.

cogito

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Estimates vary - but this one is as good as any....

http://www.cbi.org.uk/insight-and-analysis/our-global-future/factsheets/factsheet-2-benefits-of-eu-membership-outweigh-costs/

Around ten times the net amount that we pay in.

The keys words in your link are 'could be'

martinthebandit

The_Last_Username

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Estimates vary - but this one is as good as any....

http://www.cbi.org.uk/insight-and-analysis/our-global-future/factsheets/factsheet-2-benefits-of-eu-membership-outweigh-costs/

Around ten times the net amount that we pay in.

Ah yes, the CBI in regards to the EU.
Laughable - and very widely condemned!

From OpenEurope:

Still, there are at least three problems with this figure, which in combination means it should be taken with a huge pinch of salt.

http://openeuropeblog.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11/is-cbi-right-to-claim-eu-net-benefit-to.html

However, the EU’s main cheerleader was the Confederation of British Industry (CBI). This organisation calls itself the ‘voice of business’, but as ‘Leave’ campaigners correctly pointed out at the CBI’s own conference it is in fact the ‘voice of Brussels’.
Throughout the campaign the CBI peddled ‘Project Fear’. They said Brexit would cause a serious shock to the UK economy costing £100 billion, resulting in the loss of 950,000 jobs. Despite only a few months passing since the referendum result, it is clear these predictions were fundamentally false. The UK’s economy looks stable, with key economic indicators showing a bright future.

http://www.thecommentator.com/article/6416/the_cbi_s_journey_from_project_fear_to_remoaner

Britain’s leading employers’ organisation will urge its members “to turn up the volume” about the benefits of EU membership amid concerns that a vote to exit in the referendum would lead to isolation.
Sir Mike Rake, president of the CBI, will tell the organisation’s annual dinner in London that businesses have to make a stronger argument for Europe in language that makes sense to the public.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/may/20/eu-referendum-vote-cbi-uk-membership

The CBI appears simply to have ignored the costs of membership. This is a bit like the reverse of Lord Stern and The Stern Report on Climate Change. He took all the costs of “global warming”, exaggerated them, and ignored the benefits.

https://rogerhelmermep.wordpress.com/2014/03/30/the-cbi-gets-its-sums-wrong/

What explains the CBI’s fanatical zeal for EU membership?
It might have something to do with the fact the CBI receives a regular annual grant from the EU , averaging €184,025 (£157,331) per year – over £800,000 over the last five years, not to mention another £5.4 million from taxpayer-funded quangos. This is supposedly for “business and consumer surveys.” The EU is possibly the CBI’s biggest financial contributor – their position is one of naked self-interest, not Britain’s national interest – so why should we listen to the CBI?

http://getbritainout.org/the-cbi-wrong-then-wrong-now-on-britains-eu-membership/

There are lots, lots more.
I would no more trust a CBI "estimate" than I would trust a crystal ball.
In fact the crystal ball method may well prove to be more accurate.

Thrugelmir

gfplux wrote: »

The two years is the maximum period allowed. Extension is only allowed by agreement with all party's.
Get it... the maximum time. If agreement is reached Britain can leave before two years is up.

What's your problem. We get it. We'll abide by the rules. Why wouldn't we.

prosaver

Matt_L wrote: »

Yesterday...

I think the remains will be singing that song after the referendum result.

Sapphire

The longer we stay, the more we pay in – a maximum of two years (though I think this is too long). We can get a broad agreement on basic principles sooner (i.e. we control migration to our country, we get to set our own laws, and so on), and attend to details after we've left. I don't see why we can't, for example, take EU laws with us, and adapt them as we deem necessary to suit our country.

I've found the blackmail and hostile rhetoric aimed at us by the unelected, petty bureaucrat-dictators in Brussels absolutely disgusting (not to mention amateurish), and it has revealed to me what these people are like. I never would have believed such a thing possible before a year or so ago, just as before the migrant ingress I hadn't any idea that we were supposed to be in a trading area, not an empire that the EU had decided to foist on us as some superstate. All this has only strengthened my resolve that we must get out of the EU as soon as possible.

merrydance

As far as I can make out the EU aren't that bothered about us leaving, seems strange as we pay so much money in, you would think they would be trying to keep us.

Sapphire

merrydance wrote: »

As far as I can make out the EU aren't that bothered about us leaving, seems strange as we pay so much money in, you would think they would be trying to keep us.

If they weren't bothered, they wouldn't be coming up with the barrage of unpleasant, threatening rhetoric. Not at all a good tactic for getting Brits to want to cooperate with them, and has the opposite effect.

We need to break away from them completely when it comes to our sovereignty, and to do this as soon as possible.