UKPC PCN Glasgow

GlasgowBlues

Hi All,

Would appreciate some advice. My car was parked incorrectly for a short while in a disabled bay last year in Glasgow. The car park has thosands of spaces and it is a free car park. There were many other disabled bays in the vicinity which were available.

A ticket was issued but as the keeper I decided not to pay. There was no clear signage near the parking spot stating fines would be issued (there was signage in the car park, but not near the spot where the car was parked) - the driver certainly wouldnt have parked there if they knew the consequences, and hence did not knowingly enter into a contract.

UKPC have now sent a letter to the keeper's old (parents) address in the UK, and I suspect the letters will continue with the bill increasing until a court summons is issued. The keeper now lives in Scotland.

What would your advice be? Is the advice still - dont do anything because you live in Scotland? What if I got called to court in the UK?

NB complaints have been made to the site owner, but they are not interested in helping. I also made a complaint to the DVLA I disapprove of their policy to release information to third parties.

Thanks in advance for your responses.

pappa_golf

mistake not registering your v5 at your correct address

GlasgowBlues

Yes, well we have moved several times in the past few years. Anyway, do you have any advice??

Umkomaas

Usual advice for Scotland, do not contact the PPC, do not identify the driver, ignore anything that comes through from debt collectors, do not ignore any court papers. Highly unlikely in Scotland, although I note today that there's something afoot with UKPC at the court in Dundee.

http://www.bmpa.eu/court.html
(Link will only work for the day of posting, it will link to a different court list tomorrow).

My car was parked incorrectly for a short while in a disabled bay ........ the driver certainly wouldnt havent parked there if they knew the consequences, and hence did not knowingly enter into a contract.

Presumably there was little or no concern for the consequences for a genuinely disabled motorist whose space your car was taking? Yeh, yeh, we know, there were plenty of empty disabled bays - irrelevant, sorry.

Why do you think landowners employ PPCs !!!!!!.

NB complaints have been made to the site owner, but they are not interested in helping

You sound surprised.

I also made a complaint to the DVLA I disapprove of their policy to release information to third parties.

Unpalatable, but perfectly legal to issue your details to the PPC. The issue has been done to death for years on here. Hundreds have bumped their gums until they can't bleed any more.

Think yourself lucky that the incident took place in Scotland.

pappa_golf

UKPC think the OP is a resident on England , will the fact that the ticket was issued on scotish soil , but to an englishman stop them dead ?

DoaM

As I understand it, there are two factors to consider ...

1) Location of the event
2) Location of the "accused"

If either is in Scotland then POFA does not apply, thus the keeper is not liable.

@OP ... moving several times is no excuse for not keeping your V5 and license details up to date. The V5 is less critical (legally, as you were still contactable at that address); the license not being updated is an offence and could lead to (I think) a £1000 fine.

Grimble

Event occurred in Scotland, Scottish law applies therefore ignore. POFA 2012 does not apply.

Coupon-mad

UKPC have now sent a letter to the keeper's old (parents) address in the UK, and I suspect the letters will continue with the bill increasing until a court summons is issued. The keeper now lives in Scotland.

Same advice as here:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/71925001#Comment_71925001

Just needs some tweaks - the wording there can be changed to say 'my old address' rather than 'temporary address' and then you can email that to Shirley & co at UKPC:

appealmoreinfo@ukparkingcontrol.com

DO NOT STATE WHO WAS DRIVING, USE THE WORD 'KEEPER' ONLY WHEN TALKING ABOUT WHO YOU ARE (ALTHOUGH OF COURSE YOUR NAME GOES ON IT AT THE END).

HTH