Gladstones CCC - UKCPM

beamerguy

Well done, the incompetent Gladstones fails again:beer::beer:

Another court has seen through the Gladstones rubbish:rotfl:

System

the claimant’s farcial witness statement won it for me

Using Google Translate - a new Gladstone's motto


Testis enim mihi est farcial scriptor petens dicitur vicit.

AOneVS

Wondering how I should play this success with the managing agent. Just got a letter from them (to all residents) mentioning some of our obligations. One of the points raised was about visitor spaces:

"We have asked the parking control company to check the notices that were put up earlier in the year to ensure they explain what is permitted in the use of visitor spacesand this will be monitored by CPM. Those of us who have been ticketed in the past have learned a hard lesson!"

I had to laugh at that last bit. Are they just being ignorant of the facts?

Coupon-mad

AOneVS wrote: »

I arrived at Chichester county court at 11am and the usher said the claimant’s representative, Mr Town was in the waiting room. Blimey the room was small. He immediately asked if I had anything to say before we went in, to which I politely declined. I asked who he was, and he responded with local Barrister. I didn't bother contesting right of audience. The usher said the judge (District Judge Ellis) was ready, so we went in 20 minutes early.

Right away she said she had two points to raise with Mr Town. Namely the service agreement that had been submitted by the witness, Sophie Fenn. The Judge had noticed that the parking restrictions only mentioned 'Roadways and access areas'. Mr Town pointed to the site plan which mentions visitors parking, but she was having none of it. She said that there was no indication that was part of the service agreement.

He brought her attention to the lease, which mentions visitor parking restrictions, again she was having none of it and said there was no definition of temporary (parking) or any penalty for breaching the condition.

She then summed up, dismissing their case on point 1. She asked if I wanted to make any other claim today, so I put forward my schedule of costs. She was fine with the half day from work and asked me to justify the unreasonable behaviour I was claiming for. Pretty easy really (late witness statement, no response to part 18 or SAR) and I made a particular point about the picture of the sign in their witness statement, the facsimile one and she agreed it looked particularly dubious. He tried to argue that it was genuine, but failed. £120 costs awarded.

All in all, the claimant’s farcial witness statement won it for me. I certainly couldn’t have done it without the help I received on here. Having the defence and witness statements checked and checked again by people on here gave me the confidence to go head to head with them and come out with a great result!

To coin the Parking Prankster’s phrase, UKCPM, you’ve been Gladstoned!

Brilliant, I have just sought out the court reports I missed while I was away this past couple of weeks - brilliant again!

Can you email your court report to the Parking Prankster who may find time to blog about these recent wins again, all good!

You should also put a copy through all the residents' doors. Wise up, don't pay up, we say!!



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The_Deep

They've been Gladstoned


Isn't it time one of these poor PPCs complained to the SRA that Gladstones are ripping them off?

Skid56

Hi all. I'm new to this and will keep it brief. My son resided in a rented property with allocated parking bays controlled by CPM. I parked in one at Christmas and received a ticket from CPM. Ignored it and then wrote to point out that the car was legitimately parked albeit without a permit (my son had never had one himself) and this fact can be evidenced.
I ignored all further correspondence until letter from Gladstones arrived threatening court action. I'm inclined to take it to the wire but wonder if my case would fall on the absence of a permit even if the bay was mine to use. Any offers please?

Quentin

1. Don't hijack someone else's thread.

2. Everyone is politely asked not to start a new thread until after reading the newbies FAQ thread near the top of the forum

Skid56

Sorry. I did say I was new!

safarmuk

Wondering how I should play this success with the managing agent.

You need to play this in the following way, the "parking control" company are here to help the residents not penalise them. The MA is there to manage the estate for the benefit of the residents. Therefore residents should not be getting the hassle you had and the MA needs to put in place a process by which PCNs given to genuine rightful users of the parking facilities (using them within the terms of the lease) are cancelled immediately and without question. This needs to go in writing to all leaseholders. Furthermore make sure everyone at the estate knows that UK CPM were beaten in court. You only have to do a bit of a search here to see what they get up to - I doubt their overriding objective is to help you and your fellow residents.

Start with a nice letter outlining a suitable proposal for the MA to put in writing to the leaseholders and then implement and make UK CPM sign up to (they won't but then it's the MAs problem)