Landlord selling flat mid-tenancy: refusing viewing access?

davomcdave

Guest101 wrote: »

The Op doesn't get sued.....


You called the police??!! - what for??

There was someone in my house! What would you do if someone was in your house?

BTW the contract can say anything but it's up to the courts to enforce the contract. I'd be firmly on the side of telling the EA to market the house when she has vacant possession and letting the courts decide if I was in the right if it came to it.

glasgowdan

Landlord can sell the house with tenants in it if they like, and it's not the tenants concern if it doesn't say so on the advert. It's for the agents to speak directly with prospective buyers.

I would offer reasonable access, like half an hr a fortnight when you know you're going to be home anyway. I wouldn't tidy up for viewings. Just live my normal life.

Guest101

davomcdave wrote: »

There was someone in my house! What would you do if someone was in your house?

BTW the contract can say anything but it's up to the courts to enforce the contract. I'd be firmly on the side of telling the EA to market the house when she has vacant possession and letting the courts decide if I was in the right if it came to it.

If it was my LL? Have a word with him or her.

What crime were you reporting?

It is up to the courts if there's a dispute, and the loser can pay the court fees...

Guest101

Person_one wrote: »

Well, when I was buying, the properties that were tenanted and were only for sale to landlords said so on their Rightmove listings, saves wasting everybody's time.

Yep fair enough, but 8 months isn't unheard of for the buying process

Guest101

FBaby wrote: »

Which is why gaining assurance that only those prepared to buy a property with tenants for at least the remaining fixed period will be making viewings would be a reasonable request.

But that's a given. They can't unilaterally end the contract early unless by break clause which the LL can do anyway.

Guest101

FBaby wrote: »

And I said nothing to the contrary!


Indeed, you're right on that one!

More of a case that it can't do any harm. It surprising how more caring you become when you actually get to know personally the people you are impacting negatively when the choices you make in life.

I got that OP would be satisfied to remain for at least the next 8 months and that any longer would just be a bonus.

As a Landlord, I would never have considered putting my house on the market so earlier on in a fixed ast without actually speaking with the tenants to firstly explain the reason, and secondly to discuss how to go about it to minimise the impact on them.

It's interesting how some posters who would normally defend the rights of tenants seem to take a different approach in this case, and vice versa!!

I agree it is interesting. But being a tenant is not a weak position.

Had the OP come on and said I understand the LL wants to sell- what would be reasonable for viewings?

Or the LL has been making all sorts of threats, please help.

I'd be much more supportive. But the attitude is - I pay £1650 in rent and therefore don't need to be reasonable.

- the OP will remain for the next 8 months regardless. Longer term the Future LL may well decide to keep on a good flexible tenant.

Guest101

zebulon wrote: »

Do you have a 6 months break out clause in your contract which can be used by either party .... ?

The LL would still need to evict by the courts, in essence another 4-6 month process

hazyjo

My guess is the LL will offer them a cash bung once he's found a buyer - but doesn't want to say that yet until he knows just how big a carrot he'll have to dangle...

Jx

FBaby

But that's a given. They can't unilaterally end the contract early unless by break clause which the LL can do anyway.

It is a given, but who knows what the LL is playing at. Maybe he doesn't understand the implication of having a tenant for all that time and thinks that he can give notice next month if the place is sold. it's amazing how many clueless LL there are around. Not everyone is here to gain the knowledge of most posters!

I'd be much more supportive. But the attitude is - I pay £1650 in rent and therefore don't need to be reasonable.

I got that this attitude resulted from utter frustration that offering to be flexible in the first instance despite the blow led to further disrepect when their home was treated disrepectfully by strangers (leaving the property insecure).

The question about the break is very pertinent.

Miss_Samantha

45002 wrote: »

oceanscape, have a read of tessa's blog

http://www.landlordlawblog.co.uk/2013/07/23/which-is-the-most-important-legal-rule-re-landlords-right-of-entry/

and

http://www.propertyinvestmentproject.co.uk/blog/landlords-right-of-entry/

Do take this with a large pinch of salt, though.