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Complicated Parking Issue, Need Advice!

Mdr16j
Mdr16j Posts: 3 Newbie
edited 4 January 2017 at 1:53PM in Parking tickets, fines & parking
Hi,

In July, my ex-partner incurred a parking fine (private not council so I believe essentially its an invoice) using my car. The fine details were sent to me through the post as presumably they got my details from the DVLA. There was an option to inform the parking company that somebody else was driving at the time - I sent her details to them with her agreement so that she could sort it out. We've now broken up, and both moved address. I receive forwarded mail from the new tenant. In October there was a letter addressed to her which I opened with her agreement from a debt collection company - she said that she would sort it out. Now, at the end of December, I received two more letters from the tenant in our old address, addressed to her (which look identical to the original debt collection letter). As we no longer communicate, I have not opened the letters (as they are not addressed to me).

I'm wondering what I should do. Should I forward the letters to her new address? Should I open them to see what is going on?

My biggest fear is that after months of her laziness in sorting it out, the fine increases and then eventually gets its way back to me...Sadly I don't have a way of proving that it wasn't me that committed the offence - I was only a learner driver at the time, but that I guess doesn't rule me out from committing the offence? I am a student with no income and I'm extremely worried that this situation will escalate, get transferred back to me and I'll end up lumbered with debt.

Any help at all extremely appreciated. Many thanks in advance.

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  • Tilt
    Tilt Posts: 3,599 Forumite
    Mdr16j wrote: »
    Hi,

    In July, my ex-partner incurred a parking fine (private not council so I believe essentially its an invoice) using my car. The fine details were sent to me through the post as presumably they got my details from the DVLA. There was an option to inform the parking company that somebody else was driving at the time - I sent her details to them with her agreement so that she could sort it out. We've now broken up, and both moved address. I receive forwarded mail from the new tenant. In October there was a letter addressed to her which I opened with her agreement from a debt collection company - she said that she would sort it out. Now, at the end of December, I received two more letters from the tenant in our old address, addressed to her (which look identical to the original debt collection letter). As we no longer communicate, I have not opened the letters (as they are not addressed to me).

    I'm wondering what I should do. Should I forward the letters to her new address? Should I open them to see what is going on?

    My biggest fear is that after months of her laziness in sorting it out, the fine increases and then eventually gets its way back to me...Sadly I don't have a way of proving that it wasn't me that committed the offence - I was only a learner driver at the time, but that I guess doesn't rule me out from committing the offence?

    Any help at all extremely appreciated. Many thanks in advance.

    Well yes... as she has apparently accepted responsibility. You have no right to open her mail without her consent anyway so what other option do you have?

    Just to clarify though, there has no "offence" been committed.
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  • Redx
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    edited 4 January 2017 at 1:57PM
    if these are debt collector letters they can be ignored

    its the issue of an LBC or an MCOL going to the old address you should be concerned about

    you could forward them to the person named on the letter , for them to deal with (orr for them to IGNORE)

    the newbies sticky thread tells you about DCA letters and IGNORING them

    but be aware, these companies like to get CCJ,s against people by using old addresses , see this recent blog

    http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co.uk/2016/12/government-announce-ccj-review-due-to.html

    as mentioned above , no "offences" have occurred here , nor are they "fines" either , they are speculative invoices , nothing more

    they can increase it as much as they like , but only a judge can decide the actual amount owed or to be paid, witin 6 years , if they issue an MCOL
  • Coupon-mad
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    Which parking firm? Plenty of them never sue and merely send silly letters. But some sue.
    I am a student with no income and I'm extremely worried that this situation will escalate, get transferred back to me and I'll end up lumbered with debt.
    You transferred liability - can you prove it if need be (copy of your email or proof of posting the letter?).
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  • Parking firm is Care Parking, who have employed Equita to chase the debt I believe.

    I have an email from me to the parking company, and a confirmation from them of receipt? Don't have anything signed by my ex-partner though to accept the liability.
  • Hi Redex,

    What is the issue with those sort of things going to the old address? Sorry I am completely new to this!

    Should I contact the original parking company to let them know of a change of address? The recent letters from the debt collection company coming through have no return address so not like I can return them to the company with the new address anyway
  • Coupon-mad
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    Don't have anything signed by my ex-partner though to accept the liability.
    Not needed, you have done what you needed to do.
    Mdr16j wrote: »
    Hi Redex,

    What is the issue with those sort of things going to the old address? Sorry I am completely new to this!

    Should I contact the original parking company to let them know of a change of address?
    The recent letters from the debt collection company coming through have no return address so not like I can return them to the company with the new address anyway

    This is the issue, when people get sneaky CCJs at an old address and find out too late:

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5524754

    These despicable companies like to get CCJs against people by using old addresses - see this recent blog:

    http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co.uk/2016/12/government-announce-ccj-review-due-to.html

    Luckily for you, Care Parking are nothing to worry about:

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5580634

    That one is about someone living in Scotland but the parking event was in England - and was Care Parking. You just get a load of letters. It is amusing collecting them and chuckling at the red font and threats. I've ignored such letters myself, but you do need to ensure the PPC has the right address.

    http://www.bmpa.eu/companydata/Anchor_Security_Services.html

    Count the Court claims from Care Parking! :)
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  • yotmon
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    TBH I wouldn't think too deeply into this. You as keeper have informed the parking company the name of the driver - whom it seems they are pursuing.
    Morally, if you know her new address you could forward them to her, pointing out the repercussions of potential Court papers being sent to the wrong address and ccjs being issued by default. Then it's up to her to decide what to do.
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