Trump will bring about a new era of prosperity

davomcdave

vivatifosi wrote: »

Well, he's good entertainment value, I'll give you that.

Cutting off the phone call to the Aussie PM, threatening to cut UCBerkeley's funding and having a twitter spat with Arnold Schwarzenegger all in one day.

You never got headlines like that with Obama.

Since Trumps inauguration Twitter shares are up 7.2% vs a rise of 1.5% in the Nasdaq.

Crashy_Time

Herzlos wrote: »

Fair point. So he inherited a $200m business empire in 1982 (on top of whatever wealth he already had), which would be worth about $500m from inflation alone. Estimates put his actual wealth at about $1.5bn, but suspicions are his tax returns paint a much less rosy picture. So he's managed to gain an investment of about 3x inflation over the last 34 years. Not bad, but he could have got that from giving it to an investment company.


So you're saying that people like Bill Gates, Elon Musk, Steve Jobs, Steve Wozniak, are less successful in terms of merit, because they didn't run for president?

I'm not saying it's not an achievement to become president, but he won by a small margin, lost the popular vote, had the lowest ever approval rating on entry, and had the poorest innauguration turnout. So is he a successful president, so far?

Is he a successful businessman? He's just lot another $6m lawsuit where he was screwing over his customers.

He`s more successful than Hillary, that`s all that counts. :rotfl:

Sapphire

Enterprise_1701C wrote: »

As for the planet dying, it wont. We panic about the end of the world, but it is actually the end of humanity that we worry about, planet Earth will continue on quite happily without us as it did before we arrived, that is assuming there is no cosmic calamity.

The biggest threat by far is overpopulation. Population numbers were previously controlled through diseases that wiped out large numbers, e.g. in London there was a plague roughly once a generation until the Great Fire of 1666.

The process of 'natural control' has largely been stopped, leaving humans to breed in an uncontrolled way in ever increasing numbers, with people from dirt-poor countries having huge numbers of children and being unable to support them. The result will bring war, invasion and famine – what we are seeing now is only the start of something much bigger, I believe. Governments of the West have been terribly weakened – they need to start thinking of the reality that is facing (near) future (and possibly current) generations.

With regard to the state of the planet, there are only so many people Earth can support. In the course of the above, the planet will be terribly damaged.

Enterprise_1701C

Sapphire wrote: »

The biggest threat by far is overpopulation. Population numbers were previously controlled through diseases that wiped out large numbers, e.g. in London there was a plague roughly once a generation until the Great Fire of 1666.

The process of 'natural control' has largely been stopped, leaving humans to breed in an uncontrolled way in ever increasing numbers, with people from dirt-poor countries having huge numbers of children and being unable to support them. The result will bring war, invasion and famine – what we are seeing now is only the start of something much bigger, I believe. Governments of the West have been terribly weakened – they need to start thinking of the reality that is facing (near) future (and possibly current) generations.

With regard to the state of the planet, there are only so many people Earth can support. In the course of the above, the planet will be terribly damaged.

But the Earth will heal once we are gone. All the things that everyone is talking about when they are saying save the planet, global warming etc, they are really saying save humanity. But we are a blip in the life of the Earth.

CLAPTON

Enterprise_1701C wrote: »

But the Earth will heal once we are gone. All the things that everyone is talking about when they are saying save the planet, global warming etc, they are really saying save humanity. But we are a blip in the life of the Earth.

and your conclusion ..................... nothing matters that happens to humanity?

Herzlos

Thrugelmir wrote: »

So in your view it doesn't require any degree of business management skill to run a large complex organisation successfully. Everything simply just ticks over and Trump has feet up all day.

Does he actually run the business, or does he farm it out to other people?
But again, I'm not sure that he is running a complex organization successfully.; at least not compared to other people that run businesses of that scale.

I would hazard a guess that he works darn harder than you. Longer hours etc.

I've no idea how much work he actually does do. He probably does, but that doesn't mean I have to agree that he's done a good job o fit.

People are rarely what they seem off camera. Acting being a skill in itself.

Do you actually think this is all just an act?

Anyway, I don't like the guy. He's a repulsive, bigoted idiot who just happens to have caught the populist wave. His business dealings have left lots of people completely shafted, and his attitude to everything we've seen has been awful. Sure, he's still rich and he's now president, but that doesn't somehow make him any less of a terrible person.

He's also a pretty easy to manipulate clown, with an outrageous ego, he doesn't make a stable trading partner. I mean, take the Aussie refugee thing; he's trying to worm out of an agreement that Obama made, and hung up on the Aussie president in a huff during the call. So he's not showing himself to be much of a reliable businessman or shrewd negotiator at all. Can we really rely on him for our economic safety?

Thrugelmir

Herzlos wrote: »

Can we really rely on him for our economic safety?

Who cares? Trump isn't our President.

Herzlos

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Who cares? Trump isn't our President.

And do you really think that anything Trump does will have no impact on us? Aren't we looking at the US being our main trading partner after the EU?

pearl123

Trump is a nightmare. He's unfit for the job.

StevieJ

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Who cares? Trump isn't our President.

Not yet :eek: