Putting up with a suck up at work

ETTDDan

Kayalana99 wrote: »

When I read your rant about this guy, he sounds like he is becoming manager material, things like being focused on sales, trying to improve sales etc....that's a mangers job. Why would they promote you who is a good hard worker, over someone that actually is showing managerment potential?

Don't like the sound of the guy, but sounds like he knows what he is doing + and it sure sounds like the manager knows what he is doing pushing him up the ranks.

For the record, I apologised to this guy today about my attitude because it really bothered me at the time. Having had a cool off period, it is now water under the bridge.

This guy was initially hired externally from a well known phone network provider. During his last job, I understand he was some form of management. When coming over to this particular store franchise where I work, he was originally interviewed for a 12 hour contract as a sales advisor, basically my level. My interim boss at the time who kept making false promises of more hours to me, then decided to give this new guy 40 hours full time, despite I had shown my work ethic and that I was a more experienced member of staff having transferred from a different branch. Somewhere during that time, weeks into his sales advisor role, he got promoted by the aforementioned boss to the level of Sales Team Leader.

Over time, after false promises many times over, I've just thrown in the towel because to quote someone from above, why should I bother going the extra mile, if the company aren't going to pay me for it? We don't even get time and a half on bank holidays. There are quite a few people who've worked there for 15 - 20 years and they are on the same pay as someone who's just started. I pull quite a lot of money in for this company, so even that doesn't matter. I'm on the national living wage and to me and many other employees of this particular retailer, it's not enough for what we do. We aren't just sales advisors. We actually do do quite a lot of manual work. £7.20 an hour and I can barely afford to rent my own flat or buy my own car. I'm not wanting to climb the corporate ladder, I just want to get full time work. Then I'll be happy.

Believe it or not, when I started this current job, I wasn't that different from this guy (Except I didn't brown nose). I used to serve customers with a smile, make sure they were happy with their product, always be cheerful and pleasant to be around. But along with my motivation and the empty promises that never came, I just clicked and thought, what is the actual point? I've started looking elsewhere, but retail is all I'm good at.

Kayalana99

You'll find this in a lot of big retail stores as you are just a number, they try and say otherwise by offering this and that with the Xmas parties etc but end day no one cares if you want more hours unless it suits them or if you work hard (only seem to care if you don't, sometimes not even then and everyone else picks up the slack!)

Seen it all, I was the new girl hired on full-time hours with the department grumbling that they had asked for an increase in hours and I had taken the over-time. Not my fault but they don't care. Why give you more hours when they can employ someone else and use you when needed for over-time?

Get out of retail, with the new technology they are bringing out through Amazon, shop staff may be finding themselves out of work over next 5 years or so anyway...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2016/12/05/end-supermarket-queue-amazon-opens-shop-no-tills-automatically/

missbiggles1

ETTDDan wrote: »

For the record, I apologised to this guy today about my attitude because it really bothered me at the time. Having had a cool off period, it is now water under the bridge.

This guy was initially hired externally from a well known phone network provider. During his last job, I understand he was some form of management. When coming over to this particular store franchise where I work, he was originally interviewed for a 12 hour contract as a sales advisor, basically my level. My interim boss at the time who kept making false promises of more hours to me, then decided to give this new guy 40 hours full time, despite I had shown my work ethic and that I was a more experienced member of staff having transferred from a different branch. Somewhere during that time, weeks into his sales advisor role, he got promoted by the aforementioned boss to the level of Sales Team Leader.

Over time, after false promises many times over, I've just thrown in the towel because to quote someone from above, why should I bother going the extra mile, if the company aren't going to pay me for it? We don't even get time and a half on bank holidays. There are quite a few people who've worked there for 15 - 20 years and they are on the same pay as someone who's just started. I pull quite a lot of money in for this company, so even that doesn't matter. I'm on the national living wage and to me and many other employees of this particular retailer, it's not enough for what we do. We aren't just sales advisors. We actually do do quite a lot of manual work. £7.20 an hour and I can barely afford to rent my own flat or buy my own car. I'm not wanting to climb the corporate ladder, I just want to get full time work. Then I'll be happy.

Believe it or not, when I started this current job, I wasn't that different from this guy (Except I didn't brown nose). I used to serve customers with a smile, make sure they were happy with their product, always be cheerful and pleasant to be around. But along with my motivation and the empty promises that never came, I just clicked and thought, what is the actual point? I've started looking elsewhere, but retail is all I'm good at.

Isn't that because you only work part time?

ETTDDan

missbiggles1 wrote: »

Isn't that because you only work part time?

When I started the job, my original boss gave me as many hours as he could, verging on or jst over 40 hours a week, as one particular member of staff had just left suddenly. I was happy with working all the time. I'd often do two weeks straight without a day off because we were short staffed. I didn't complain. I loved it. But now I happen to be on 25 hours a week minimum, fixing colleague errors. Granted 25 hours is better off than most, but still... a student in £18,000 worth of debt, age 25, still living at home with parents having the ability to get his or her own place any time soon? Unless the national living wage goes up to the anticipated £9 an hour, I don't think I'll be in my own house or vehicle until my mid 30s.

ETTDDan

Kayalana99 wrote: »

You'll find this in a lot of big retail stores as you are just a number, they try and say otherwise by offering this and that with the Xmas parties etc but end day no one cares if you want more hours unless it suits them or if you work hard (only seem to care if you don't, sometimes not even then and everyone else picks up the slack!)

Seen it all, I was the new girl hired on full-time hours with the department grumbling that they had asked for an increase in hours and I had taken the over-time. Not my fault but they don't care. Why give you more hours when they can employ someone else and use you when needed for over-time?

Get out of retail, with the new technology they are bringing out through Amazon, shop staff may be finding themselves out of work over next 5 years or so anyway...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2016/12/05/end-supermarket-queue-amazon-opens-shop-no-tills-automatically/

You're right. To further back up your comment regarding how we're just seen as a number, my place of work recently decided to give everyone gift cards of it's own brand name to people, rather than a christmas bonus!

daytona0

ETTDDan wrote: »

You're right. To further back up your comment regarding how we're just seen as a number, my place of work recently decided to give everyone gift cards of it's own brand name to people, rather than a christmas bonus!

Better than nothing!

My bonus this year was a bottle of wine

Dird

ETTDDan wrote: »

a student in £18,000 worth of debt, age 25, still living at home with parents having the ability to get his or her own place any time soon? I don't think I'll be in my own house or vehicle until my mid 30s.

So you're a student or what? Unless your parents gift you a deposit I don't think you'll be owning your own house by mid 30s on 25 hours/week at NWM if houses around there are £100k+

Regarding the initial post. I too get annoyed by "overly" enthusiatic people. There's a recent graduate at work who responds to anything said to her with "oh interest / that's so interesting" and laughs way too much at non-funny things (with an annoying laugh). There's also a new recruit who is way to eager but hopefully that candle will burn out once the probation period has passed

lulu650

Dird wrote: »

....There's a recent graduate at work who responds to anything said to her with "oh interest / that's so interesting" and laughs way too much at non-funny things (with an annoying laugh). There's also a new recruit who is way to eager.......

Sounds like two young people trying to fit in and be liked by colleagues. Nothing wrong with that as far as I can see .

ETTDDan

Dird wrote: »

So you're a student or what?

I was a student. Sorry, I should've mentioned before.

daytona0

Dird wrote: »

Regarding the initial post. I too get annoyed by "overly" enthusiatic people. There's a recent graduate at work who responds to anything said to her with "oh interest / that's so interesting" and laughs way too much at non-funny things (with an annoying laugh). There's also a new recruit who is way to eager but hopefully that candle will burn out once the probation period has passed

You should watch this video...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ybt8wXIahQU

Candle burning out my ***!!