Royal Mail And Internet Fraud

jakesaunders

Morning,

I'm not sure if this is there right place to post this or even the right forum altogether! But wondered if someone could give me a bit of advice regarding some fraud.

So I recently had an iPhone listed on eBay, someone contacted me through eBay and asked if I would be willing to take their offer off eBay to avoid the eBay fees, I didn't think anything of it as I had done this before. However I wasn't particularly paying attention and the PayPal emails I received were not genuine.

After posting the parcel next day as requested by the buyer, I logged into my PayPal to find there was no money in there what so ever. I then looked over the emails and realised they were from a random email address and not PayPal! I'm normally so hot on these kind of things so I don't know what I was thinking!!!

I've contacted the police and action fraud and police can't do anything but action fraud are looking into it, however my question was, I shipped it next day signed for, insured for £400. So even though the scammers are going to sign for the item is there any way of getting some compensation from Royal Mail some how or has anyone experienced the same scam like me and what did you do about it?

Sorry for the long winded post, hopefully you guys can help me a bit! Appreciate it!

Cheers
Jake

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jakesaunders wrote: »

is there any way of getting some compensation from Royal Mail some how

Royal Mail are only contracted to deliver your parcel and your insurance only covers non-delivery of that parcel. In other words, it's got nothing to do with Royal Mail.

You've lost all your money, unfortunately.

All you can do is make sure to use E-Bay and PayPal in a manner that provides full protection from scammers in the future.

Sorry.

GTE_Boy

jakesaunders wrote: »

Morning,

I'm not sure if this is there right place to post this or even the right forum altogether! But wondered if someone could give me a bit of advice regarding some fraud.

So I recently had an iPhone listed on eBay, someone contacted me through eBay and asked if I would be willing to take their offer off eBay to avoid the eBay fees, I didn't think anything of it as I had done this before. However I wasn't particularly paying attention and the PayPal emails I received were not genuine.

After posting the parcel next day as requested by the buyer, I logged into my PayPal to find there was no money in there what so ever. I then looked over the emails and realised they were from a random email address and not PayPal! I'm normally so hot on these kind of things so I don't know what I was thinking!!!

I've contacted the police and action fraud and police can't do anything but action fraud are looking into it, however my question was, I shipped it next day signed for, insured for £400. So even though the scammers are going to sign for the item is there any way of getting some compensation from Royal Mail some how or has anyone experienced the same scam like me and what did you do about it?

Sorry for the long winded post, hopefully you guys can help me a bit! Appreciate it!

Cheers
Jake

Can't or won't?

All Action Fraud will do is pass it to the Police if there is a line of enquiry.

theonlywayisup

jakesaunders wrote: »

Morning,

I'm not sure if this is there right place to post this or even the right forum altogether! But wondered if someone could give me a bit of advice regarding some fraud.

So I recently had an iPhone listed on eBay, someone contacted me through eBay and asked if I would be willing to take their offer off eBay to avoid the eBay fees, I didn't think anything of it as I had done this before. However I wasn't particularly paying attention and the PayPal emails I received were not genuine.

After posting the parcel next day as requested by the buyer, I logged into my PayPal to find there was no money in there what so ever. I then looked over the emails and realised they were from a random email address and not PayPal! I'm normally so hot on these kind of things so I don't know what I was thinking!!!

I've contacted the police and action fraud and police can't do anything but action fraud are looking into it, however my question was, I shipped it next day signed for, insured for £400. So even though the scammers are going to sign for the item is there any way of getting some compensation from Royal Mail some how or has anyone experienced the same scam like me and what did you do about it?

Sorry for the long winded post, hopefully you guys can help me a bit! Appreciate it!

Cheers
Jake

As was outlined above, it isn't anything to do with Royal Mail. You contracted Royal Mail to deliver your iphone to an address. They have done it. Why should your mistake be compensated by someone else?

This type of scam is very common. It relies on the victim believing the email rather than taking a moment to log into their paypal account. Had you have done that, you would not be in this situation.

Have you blocked your phone?

Hermione_Granger

jakesaunders wrote: »

So I recently had an iPhone listed on eBay, someone contacted me through eBay and asked if I would be willing to take their offer off eBay to avoid the eBay fees, I didn't think anything of it as I had done this before.

So, in breach of eBay's terms and conditions, you decided that in order to save a few £'s in fees you would cut them out of the loop again after their website had already found you a buyer and by doing so you made sure that any possibility of ebay seller protection would be lost.

Was it really worth it in the end?

mattyprice4004

How on earth can you possibly think Royal Mail are in any way at fault?

You didn't see it was a scam, you posted it to the scammer - this is 100% your fault not theirs.

They're doing as you instructed and nothing else.

jakesaunders

Thought that would be the case with loosing it all, oh well, my fault entirely but wow, came here just for some advice, I knew I was at fault I was just wondering. We all make mistakes and clearly now this has happened I won't fall for it again. Sorry I asked for some advice! What a lovely welcome to the forums!

jakesaunders

Yes I thought that would be the case, completely my fault! How do I block the phone? it has been wiped and cleared from my iCloud account so would it still be possible do you know?

shaun_from_Africa

Provided that the phone's IMEI was registered with a network provider, you have to contact them and report the phone as having been stolen.
They should then block the phone which will prevent it from being used in the EU.

jakesaunders

That's great, thank you very much.

GTE_Boy

Why wouldn't the police deal with it?