Employment Tribunal Advice Please

Converse20

So, at 7.34pm they sent me approx 750 pages of absolute rubbish. Completly irrelevant documents (and I don't need to be legally trained to know this, it's all a emails from a year after I was dismissed showing how they are now compliant) so half way through printing them, I've ran out of ink and nearly paper!

And I thought it was the legal side that I would struggle with!!!

annandale

Why did you need to print them off. Could they not have sent them to you?

Mersey_2

I was just about to ask how are they 'serving' you with docs. In any event those docs are still out of time ie late as they fail to comply with the Direction to serve yourself by yesterday, as 4pm is the deadine.

Converse20

annandale wrote: »

Why did you need to print them off. Could they not have sent them to you?

To add to the bundle.

annandale

Not your job to have to print them off at this stage. And if they are irrelevant why bother

steampowered

A bit strange that they are updating the bundle so late in the day. Emails sent a year after your dismissal are not going to be relevant to the question of whether you were unfairly dismissed so I'm a bit mystified as to why they are bothering.

Mersey wrote: »

Whilst it's a bit late in the day to organise, you may even want to ask a McKenzie Friend to attend. They can't usually act for you without permission, but they can assist by taking notes and helping you to find your place in the bundle and so on.

Purely for your information, there are no restrictions on rights of audience in the Employment Tribunal (and most other Tribunals). An unqualified person like a McKenzie friend can't represent you in court but could represent you in the Employment Tribunal (although I still wouldn't recommend having an unqualified person conduct advocacy in the ET).

Mersey_2

Yes, I know re rights of audience - it just wouldn't usually be allowed at this late stage and whether or not you have a Rep is usually asked months earlier.


Incidentally, most McKenzie Friends are non-qualified (they get annoyed if you call them 'unqualified').


[Incidentally McKenzie Friends can now speak in Court (with permission) - I was against one last week in the County Court]

Converse20

Mersey wrote: »

I was just about to ask how are they 'serving' you with docs. In any event those docs are still out of time ie late as they fail to comply with the Direction to serve yourself by yesterday, as 4pm is the deadine.

So because they said I couldn't, it wouldn't be fair for them to?

I agree entirely, but would this have any impact on the case?

They can provide on the day so short of the printing it wouldn't make much difference.

As it is there is quite a bit to be discussed before the case actually starts.

They are hearing my appeal about the 2 year rule and making a decision on that, and also an application for irrelevant documents to be removed from the bundle.

Converse20

steampowered wrote: »

A bit strange that they are updating the bundle so late in the day. Emails sent a year after your dismissal are not going to be relevant to the question of whether you were unfairly dismissed so I'm a bit mystified as to why they are bothering.


Purely for your information, there are no restrictions on rights of audience in the Employment Tribunal (and most other Tribunals). An unqualified person like a McKenzie friend can't represent you in court but could represent you in the Employment Tribunal (although I still wouldn't recommend having an unqualified person conduct advocacy in the ET).

Sounds daft, but considering that my replacement ink has ran out trying to print it all, I reckon that they've done it to cause hassle!


Do you think it's to late to look into the mckenzie friend stuff?

Mersey_2

They should have served the docs by 4pm on 25th, so you can point out the R's failure to comply with the Directions provided in the Order.


They'll then be given an opportunity to say why they want to include late docs - and rely on any.


Re Mc F, it is late in the day, but it's entirely upto you if you'd prefer to have someone to talk to or even just there with you. There's even a site listing some - just be aware that some charge for their time. Although uni law students will of course be free.