Forced to take holiday on public holiday days in lieu

xapprenticex

This is very common and very normal .

DCFC79

xapprenticex wrote: »

This is very common and very normal .

So am I, I would of thought reading the contract would have got the answer.

Im guessing the OP isnt currently working or last worked before it was changed re holidays.

JustAnotherSaver

hettyGreek wrote: »

Hello,

I have a family member that is a full time employee. They work Thursday - Tuesdays.

This year the place they work at was closed from 25-27. They received normal pay for 2 days, but were forced to take some of their annual leave on the 27th as the place was shut.

Is this legal?

If they were wanting it unpaid maybe they could've tried using all their holidays elsewhere in the year?

Or at least getting all their days booked up?

bugslet

hettyGreek wrote: »

Ok thanks, i guess this is just modern working conditions.

Is that meant to sound as if the practice is awful? Our customers are on shutdown between Xmas and new year so we have no work. Our contract , which covers me as well says that we have have three days holiday out of the allowance to cover that period.

Runningfast

asajj wrote: »

Some companies shut the site during Christmas-New Year period but don't ask employees to use their annual leave. It is just courtesy though.

The company I work for closes down over Christmas and the days between Christmas and New Year we are all off unpaid.

JustAnotherSaver

Runningfast wrote: »

The company I work for closes down over Christmas and the days between Christmas and New Year we are all off unpaid.

Do they have any jobs going?

A relative of mine has something daft like 4 week shut down from December in to January.

Jealous is not the word.

Runningfast

JustAnotherSaver wrote: »

Do they have any jobs going?

A relative of mine has something daft like 4 week shut down from December in to January.

Jealous is not the word.

Unfortunately no as the company is currently going through a round of redundancies. The funny thing is 6 years ago when the company proposed the unpaid festive shutdown there was a lot of anger and objection. The company put forward a 2 year trial to see how it worked, it was that popular with the staff and the majority agreeing that they preferred christmas off with the unpaid period being taken out of your pay over the year and not from anyone month etc. It has now become a permanent part of our contracts. I like it, it is basically an extra weeks holiday and everyone guaranteed to be off over christmas and new year. What's not to like :-)

getmore4less

Runningfast wrote: »

Unfortunately no as the company is currently going through a round of redundancies. The funny thing is 6 years ago when the company proposed the unpaid festive shutdown there was a lot of anger and objection. The company put forward a 2 year trial to see how it worked, it was that popular with the staff and the majority agreeing that they preferred christmas off with the unpaid period being taken out of your pay over the year and not from anyone month etc. It has now become a permanent part of our contracts. I like it, it is basically an extra weeks holiday and everyone guaranteed to be off over christmas and new year. What's not to like :-)

Is the reduced pay advance or arrears?

are they adjusting the pay out of those that are redundant to account for the reduced pay and skewed holiday pay?

JustAnotherSaver

Runningfast wrote: »

Unfortunately no as the company is currently going through a round of redundancies. The funny thing is 6 years ago when the company proposed the unpaid festive shutdown there was a lot of anger and objection. The company put forward a 2 year trial to see how it worked, it was that popular with the staff and the majority agreeing that they preferred christmas off with the unpaid period being taken out of your pay over the year and not from anyone month etc. It has now become a permanent part of our contracts. I like it, it is basically an extra weeks holiday and everyone guaranteed to be off over christmas and new year. What's not to like :-)

My thoughts exactly. I've always loved Christmas. We have to take it in turns. Thankfully this year is my turn but it'll be 2019 at the EARLIEST before the next time i can have Christmas again. Maybe 2020 or even 2021 if i'm really unlucky (which isn't unheard of & that's without the woe is me record lol).

We've had it before where they've given us a day off (not often). New Years Eve has been the common one. They haven't ALWAYS given it but some years they do & we can either keep a days holiday for it or if we've used them all then we just end up with it unpaid.

So the way i see it is i get a bonus day off work. I'll have it unpaid.

I appreciate some may really need the money so can't afford to take these days unpaid, but if it means extra time off then i'll just have less alcohol through the year, less chocolate, less Starbucks or whatever other crap i spend my money on. I'll budget throughout the 12 months to make it work so i don't go short

Runningfast

getmore4less wrote: »

Is the reduced pay advance or arrears?

are they adjusting the pay out of those that are redundant to account for the reduced pay and skewed holiday pay?

The pay is taken as equal amounts each month over the 12 months. Our salary is paid around the 20th of each month so by the time you have your days off at Christmas you have had all of the deductions ...so in advance.

With regards to the the redundancies I have no idea, thankfully for me I have managed to avoid the redundancy list so far so not sure how it works.