ECP Appeal

pappa_golf

ok , you have missed your appeal , the problem now is that ECP have upto 6 yrs to start court action , no mail fowarding can run that long , you NEED to inform ECP of your new address otherwise they could start court action behind your back and cause problems

at the moment they are not serial court people , but things could change http://www.bmpa.eu/companydata/Euro_Car_Parks.html

shardsfc

They've not mentioned an expiry date on written appeals to IAS though, surely this is an avenue worth exploring?

Umkomaas

The acronym IAS has become interchangeable between BPA and IPC second stage appeal services - and can cause some confusion, as seems to have happened here.

Fundamentally, the acronym IAS relates to an 'independent appeals service'. It can be used to describe, generically, either of the two available.

The 'brand name' for the BPA's independent appeals service is POPLA (Parking on Private Land Appeals).

The 'brand name' for the IPC's independent appeals service is ..... wait for it .... the IAS (Independent Appeals Service), and which is where the confusion starts and ends.

So hopefully that helps the confusion? Clear as mud!

shardsfc

Thanks for the replies again.

I believe if I request a copy of the appeals form from EPC they're going to refuse to give this to me, on the basis that my appeals window has expired.

If I give them my new address when I move in (I haven't yet, so this is less of an issue right now). What can happen next? what is the likelihood of court proceedings? Can they continue to chase payment from the keeper even though it was not the keeper that was driving the vehicle?

pappa_golf

link posted above shows you the chances of them starting court action (very low) , however times can and do change and 5.75 yrs is a long time

you can write to ecp and along with inc your new address ask for the form that they said you could have

a: a refusal would prove they have your new address

b: no reply could be a complaint to the BPA

1st class with proof of postage , NOT recorded , follow up by email and CC it to a friend

DollyDee_2

And don't forget to update your driving licence(s) AND V5 Logbook(s) with the DVLA when you move.

Coupon-mad

pappa_golf wrote: »

link posted above shows you the chances of them starting court action (very low) , however times can and do change and 5.75 yrs is a long time

you can write to ecp and along with inc your new address ask for the form that they said you could have

a: a refusal would prove they have your new address

b: no reply could be a complaint to the BPA

1st class with proof of postage , NOT recorded , follow up by email and CC it to a friend

That's a good suggestion.

ECP are nothing to worry about (OP please Google 'BMPA insight Euro').

But just in case they suddenly break the habit of a lifetime and start suing people, the OP does need to provide their new address and ask for the form to appeal to POPLA and ask for a fresh POPLA code because you've moved house, see what happens.

shardsfc

Thanks again for replies!

As anticipated, my request for a copy of the form has been rejected due to the fact I'm outside of my 28 day window of appeal.

I've not moved address just yet, it's still in process, and they don't have my new address, and won't until I provide them with it.

I'm guessing their next steps will be to sell this on to a 3rd party debt collection agency who again will just use the same tactics but not actually have any legal authority to do anything.

I'm thinking my best bet is to just ignore them until I move out, inform them of my new address when I move, and then continue to ignore? Unless anyone has any other ideas, thanks!

Coupon-mad

Nope, they don't sell it to debt collectors. They use debt collectors to send letters to you, hoping to collect some money for ECP and a rake-off for the debt collectors.

Big deal - the very first PCN I ever ignored was from ECP and I think I still have the collection of daft letters somewhere! Most amusing.