SSD - brand ?

Mr_Toad

50Twuncle wrote: »

OK next question - HYBRID drives - are they any good ?
They have, say a 20Gb SSD sector - with the rest, conventional HDD technology - but what gets me - is what keeps the OS files on the SSD sector ?
ie) Are they write protectable or something ?

I have a hybrid hdd in my iMac and it's managed by the OS it's a lot faster than the old iMac but obviously not as fast as a full SSD.

I'm not sure if they are plug and play, require software or if the OS has to be able to use them. I'm sure somebody will be along who knows for sure about the Windows side of things.

almillar

Mr_Toad - if that's as supplied by Apple, you've actually got something different from what 50Twuncle is talking about.
In OSX (macOS) you can create your own 'hybrid' drive from an SSD and HDD and the OS will manage it - for the rest of us, a hybrid drive looks just like a normal HDD, but will basically have a really, really big cache - effectively an SSD, and the drive itself sorts it all out, with the most used stuff sitting in the SSD section. No user intervention or setup required. OS agnostic. I've got one in my MacBook Pro.

Mr_Toad

almillar wrote: »

Mr_Toad - if that's as supplied by Apple, you've actually got something different from what 50Twuncle is talking about.
In OSX (macOS) you can create your own 'hybrid' drive from an SSD and HDD and the OS will manage it - for the rest of us, a hybrid drive looks just like a normal HDD, but will basically have a really, really big cache - effectively an SSD, and the drive itself sorts it all out, with the most used stuff sitting in the SSD section. No user intervention or setup required. OS agnostic. I've got one in my MacBook Pro.

Yes it was supplied by Apple.

I knew someone who knew what they are talking about would be along.

50Twuncle

I will wait until the new year sales and get a Crucial MX300
Hopefully, there will be a price reduction.......

seatbeltnoob

50Twuncle wrote: »

OK next question - HYBRID drives - are they any good ?
They have, say a 20Gb SSD sector - with the rest, conventional HDD technology - but what gets me - is what keeps the OS files on the SSD sector ?
ie) Are they write protectable or something ?

no point. SSD drives were very expensive art first so it made sense to have hybrid drive so you could experience some SSD benefits on boot. But given that you can get a 240GB for £70 now it just doesn't make sense/

The only application I could fathom using them now is on a small laptop that only has 1 hard drive space where you need lots of storage space. But on a desktop machine with ample drive space get a proper SSD.

Carrot007

seatbeltnoob wrote: »

no point. SSD drives were very expensive art first so it made sense to have hybrid drive so you could experience some SSD benefits on boot. But given that you can get a 240GB for £70 now it just doesn't make sense

Makes perfect sense to me. 240GB? You have to be kidding. I require a 3TB drive. I would get a SSD but you know cost.

I can (and do) cope with 240GB on a laptop I don't do much with. But for machines I use I would struggle with under 2TB.

SSD's need to come down in price enough to remove HDD from the market for many people to buy them.

seatbeltnoob

Carrot007 wrote: »

Makes perfect sense to me. 240GB? You have to be kidding. I require a 3TB drive. I would get a SSD but you know cost.

I can (and do) cope with 240GB on a laptop I don't do much with. But for machines I use I would struggle with under 2TB.

SSD's need to come down in price enough to remove HDD from the market for many people to buy them.

you didn't even read the rest of the post. If your laptop only had 1 drive space then get a hybrid, if you have 2 or more drive space get an SSD and a !!!!!! mechanical on the 2nd bay.

read the post fully before replying next time. Hybrid is pointless on a machine with more than 1 bay. May as well have the entire OS, and applications on the SSD.

seatbeltnoob

Mr_Toad wrote: »

I have a hybrid hdd in my iMac and it's managed by the OS it's a lot faster than the old iMac but obviously not as fast as a full SSD.

I'm not sure if they are plug and play, require software or if the OS has to be able to use them. I'm sure somebody will be along who knows for sure about the Windows side of things.

the SSD benefit on your hybrid probably isn't as good as you think. All mechanical drives degrade over time [all drives for that matter]. Comparing an old mechanical to a brand new hybrid isn't a fair comparison. Even if you got a new mechanicl you would have experienced speed improvement.

I've had a hybrid drive before I moved onto full SSD and the difference was night and day.

droopsnoot

Carrot007 wrote: »

SSD's need to come down in price enough to remove HDD from the market for many people to buy them.

I imagine some of the cost is because of the performance premium over a mechanical hard disk. I too am disappointed that they're not cheaper than they are yet, though I expect it will come.

seatbeltnoob

droopsnoot wrote: »

I imagine some of the cost is because of the performance premium over a mechanical hard disk. I too am disappointed that they're not cheaper than they are yet, though I expect it will come.

To be fair, for most ordinary users a 240GB primary SSD with a secondary mechanical is perfectly fine.

I do that. I keep my OS and the most frequently used games on my primary OS. Then keep the data, movies, music, documents on a mechanical.