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Referendum & newspapers

Ballard
Ballard Posts: 2,983 Forumite
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edited 9 December 2016 at 7:15AM in Debate House Prices & the Economy
I don't think that there's any doubt that the printed press influenced the referendum massively and I'm interested to see which papers were read by voters from both sides.

I'm not at all interested in which papers are read by individual posters but am simply curious to see whether my thoughts pan out.

Edit: I can't get more than 10 options so have combined a couple of broadsheets and also forgot The Times and now can't work out how to amend the options so include all broadsheets in the Guardian/Telegraph vote.

Hopefully this won't turn into another argument. It doesn't matter which newspaper you read.

Which newspaper? 8 votes

Remain - Telegraph/Guardian
37% 3 votes
Remain - Sun
0% 0 votes
Remain - Mirror
0% 0 votes
Remain - Express
0% 0 votes
Remain - Mail
0% 0 votes
Leave - Telegraph/Guardian
25% 2 votes
Leave - Sun
0% 0 votes
Leave - Mirror
0% 0 votes
Leave - Express
12% 1 vote
Leave - Mail
25% 2 votes
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  • Ballard wrote: »
    Edit: I can't get more than 10 options so have combined a couple of broadsheets and also forgot The Times and now can't work out how to amend the options so include all broadsheets in the Guardian/Telegraph vote.
    .

    I read most news online - usually from the Times, Telegraph, Guardian, FT, Economist, and a few others.... SMH, WSJ, etc, so I voted for your broadsheet option of Telegraph/Guardian.

    Telegraph was pro-leave, Guardian pro-remain, so not sure it's a good poll choice.
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • antrobus
    antrobus Posts: 17,386 Forumite
    Ballard wrote: »
    I don't think that there's any doubt that the printed press influenced the referendum massively and I'm interested to see which papers were read by voters from both sides.
    ....

    Pro-Brexit articles dominated newspaper referendum coverage, study shows
    https://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/sep/20/pro-brexit-articles-dominated-newspaper-referendum-coverage-study-shows

    Perhaps not as much as you think.:):):)
  • bugslet
    bugslet Posts: 6,874 Forumite
    IIRC, some press group determined that the Times was the most neutral of newspapers. I thought it did a fairly good job of putting both sides.

    Would you have put it under Remain or Leave. (I think the former just, FWIW).
  • The polling data form the social attitudes survey does show a clear correlation between likelihood of voting leave and primary newspaper source.
    Newspapers
    The rates of Leave voting among people looked at by the newspapers read most often were:
    Sun - 70%
    Express - 70%
    Mail - 66%
    Star - 65%
    Telegraph - 55%
    Mirror - 44%
    No newspaper - 41%
    Other paper - 33%
    Times - 30%
    Financial Times - 22%
    Independent - 15%
    Guardian - 9%
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • bugslet wrote: »
    IIRC, some press group determined that the Times was the most neutral of newspapers. I thought it did a fairly good job of putting both sides.

    Would you have put it under Remain or Leave. (I think the former just, FWIW).

    The Times is the paper I read most often as a physical newspaper - as it's a choice of that or the Sun on the flights to work every week - I'd agree it was very objective/neutral in it's coverage.

    I think their editorial stance was to remain - but as you rightly note - the coverage was pretty much even for both sides.
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • mwpt
    mwpt Posts: 2,502 Forumite
    Sixth Anniversary Combo Breaker
    Some stats on that here:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38227674
    The rates of Leave voting among people looked at by the newspapers read most often were:
    Sun - 70%
    Express - 70%
    Mail - 66%
    Star - 65%
    Telegraph - 55%
    Mirror - 44%
    No newspaper - 41%
    Other paper - 33%
    Times - 30%
    Financial Times - 22%
    Independent - 15%
    Guardian - 9%

    Running a poll here... I don't think an economics forum with a self selected group of people is the best sample.

    EDIT: Sorry, saw this had already been posted.
  • Ballard
    Ballard Posts: 2,983 Forumite
    Tenth Anniversary 1,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    I posted this too early in the morning and didn't put enough thought into it. My initial idea was to determine how many people read some of the more excitable tabloids.
  • mayonnaise
    mayonnaise Posts: 3,690 Forumite
    The rates of Leave voting among people looked at by the newspapers read most often were:
    Sun - 70%
    Express - 70%
    No surprise one votes Leave if one gets served a daily portion of fear, anger, hate and bigotry.

    3312_4672.jpg
    Express-cover-montage.jpg
    Don't blame me, I voted Remain.
  • mayonnaise wrote: »
    No surprise one votes Leave if one gets served a daily portion of fear, anger, hate and bigotry.

    3312_4672.jpg
    Express-cover-montage.jpg

    And yet the only bigotry we see on here is people like yourself telling everyone who bothers to read what you post how Leave voters decided they had better vote leave because they were xenophobic and hate foreigners. They were too stupid to make up their own minds for other reasons and did what the printed media told them to do, right?
  • And yet the only bigotry we see on here is people like yourself telling everyone who bothers to read what you post how Leave voters decided they had better vote leave because they were xenophobic and hate foreigners. They were too stupid to make up their own minds for other reasons and did what the printed media told them to do, right?

    Clearly you like to think of yourself as the exception to the rule.

    But the polling data is really pretty clear on this topic...;)
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
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