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Flood of new energy tariffs ‘could bamboozle customers’

fredandwilma
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http://www.energylivenews.com/2016/12/06/flood-of-new-energy-tariffs-could-bamboozle-customers/


More than 1,300 energy tariffs are to “flood” the market as the removal of the four-tariff rule comes into effect.

Independent energy supplier First Utility warns consumers could be “completely bamboozled” as a result of Ofgem removing the restrictions.

Although the rule was officially removed last week, suppliers were free to start offering more than four tariffs per fuel in the summer.

First Utility compared the average number of tariffs per energy supplier in 2011, i.e. before Ofgem introduced rules limiting suppliers to just four tariffs each, until today.

It found there were 400 tariffs available from 13 suppliers at the time, meaning the average number of tariffs available per supplier was 31.

That has increased to 873 tariffs at an average of 20 per supplier today, it adds.

If the market returned to the previous average tariff offering before Ofgem’s Retail Market Review (RMR), with 43 suppliers offering 31 tariffs each, consumers could be faced with a staggering 1,364 tariffs to choose from, according to First Utility.

The proposal to remove the four-tariff rule was suggested by the Competition and Markets Authority (CMA) which has been supported by Ofgem.


First Utility previously told ELN consumers are not engaged in the energy market because of the Big Six and believes the CMA’s proposals “do little” to engage the 70% of the large suppliers’ customers who are on the most expensive tariff.

It adds the increase in tariff choices will “further confuse and turn customers off from the market” despite the savings available to those who do switch.

Ed Kamm, UK MD, First Utility said: “The CMA had a golden opportunity to make things fairer and simpler for all consumers. But their remedies do nothing to resolve what has become a ‘Tale of two markets’ – divided between those who shop around for the best deals and save hundreds and the disengaged or vulnerable who remain on the most expensive tariffs.

“The prospect of returning to the bad old days of confusion marketing, without any requirement to explain these tariffs in a way that makes sense to consumers, is hugely concerning. Why should customers be expected to wade through more than a thousand baffling options? This makes it harder for consumers to find and compare the best deals.”

Ofgem said it shares the CMA’s aim of wanting suppliers to offer a wider range of “good value” tariffs to consumers.

A spokesperson added: “When the rule was put in place we said that it was not a long term solution. Removing the rule allows suppliers to offer customers more innovative tariffs as the energy market becomes smarter. This could, for example, include bundling tariffs with energy efficiency products.

“We want to help people make informed choices about how to get a better deal. As part of this each supplier will have to make it easier for customers to compare its new deals. But we don’t want to see a return to confusopoly and we will watching suppliers closely.”
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  • Andy_WSM
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    The more tariff's the better IMO. All I need to see is the daily standing charge, the unit costs and any discounts available and I can work out the rest for myself. It's more likely the energy comparrison sites will bamboozle customers as they often make all sorts of assumptions that may not be relevant or true.
  • Swipe
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    Bamboozled or can't be bothered to sit down and make a few calculations themselves?
  • System
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    A lot of the smaller suppliers are now 'hiding' their tariffs from comparison sites. Not everyone is able, or wants, to hunt for the best deal. The CMA and OFGEM will, imho, regret this decision.
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  • Dird
    Dird Posts: 2,703 Forumite
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    "That has increased to 873 tariffs at an average of 20 per supplier today" They were ignoring the ban or have already ploughed in so many tariffs?
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  • footyguy
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    I'm bamboozled by the huge number of comparison sites to choose from to compare energy tariffs.

    Even MSE suggest at least a handful of different ones, all with varying levels of possible cashback.To confuse matters further, whilst possible cashback maybe available for any specific supplier on some of that handful of sites, it may not be available from all sites.
  • fredandwilma
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    I note E.on's 'Best Deal for you' page is currently unavailable. Does this mean they are finally 'updating' their tariffs? Somehow i can't imagine a V21 will be cheaper than V20, but we shall see?


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    There's currently a distinct lack of choice with E.on, as we've all commented on.
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  • C_Mababejive
    C_Mababejive Posts: 11,668 Forumite
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    Great,thats what its all about, lots of choice and competition. Bring it on...
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  • zaax
    zaax Posts: 1,914 Forumite
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    edited 7 December 2016 at 9:53AM
    Actully finding the tariffs on the suppliers website sites would be helpful
    Do you want your money back, and a bit more, search for 'money claim online' - They don't like it up 'em Captain Mainwaring
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