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Premier Parking Solutions - Worried now because I gave them my name and address..

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  • Umkomaas
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    There's nothing to stop you appealing to the IAS (if you're still within the 21 day appeal window), but the outcome is pretty predictable. The concern might be that with an IAS 'win' in their hands the PPC might be more encouraged to pursue this to the county court.

    However, in the interest of balance, there is one regular contributor (The Deep) who argues that an IAS dismissal of the appeal is likely to be so perverse and contrary to natural justice, there is no way the PPC would dare put it in front of a judge. There's no substantive evidence one way or the other to confirm that one strategy is better than the other.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

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  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 153,572 Forumite
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    edited 30 November 2016 at 12:37AM
    Ianeggbert wrote: »
    I must admit all, despite your really kind and helpful responses so far, that as I stupidly admitted I was the driver (hence the name and address part of my OP) I'm going to struggle with a successful appeal.
    You are not at a realistic appeal stage. So relax and start ignoring the daft letters like we all did before 2012. People ignored them then and beat parking firms who tried (rare) claims. Things are not much different now, with IPC firms the advice is one appeal then IGNORE and only take seriously a rare claim. We help defend cases and posters here win.
    Obviously, as suggested, I can try and appeal
    You can't. Waste of time. You did the single appeal needed, you did the right thing.
    to their better nature
    You are joking?! :)
    that I paid for a ticket with a period that exceeded my stay by over half an hour despite not actually purchasing it within the 10 minutes grace period. I'd be prepared to take legal advice on this point if necessary but surely simple punters like me can overturn an appeal just by pointing out "the bleeding obvious" or am i just being naive?
    You can't win an IAS appeal. The ''bl**din' obvious'' doesn't tick the box for the one in a blue moon that might slip through.

    However, your argument makes sense in a court defence where you would get a fair hearing. A claim is highly unlikely with PPS. We see threads all the time - just put PPS into the 'search this board' box and you will have lots to read!

    Here's yesterdays' poster with a similar issue:

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5564252

    Why not compare notes with him as you both ignore the debt collector drivel we've all ignored for a decade. Do not pay. Do not try IAS because it puts you on the back foot and gives a parking firm ammo to beat you about with, in the later threatograms. YOU WILL LOSE AT IAS.

    You did right to appeal to take it away from the company/lease firm, so you can now see all the silly letters yourself and no daft person will be paying it.
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  • Once again, thank you so much for your replies.

    CM - just to clarify from your last post, would you advise that I just sit tight and ignore everything now or would it be beneficial to send a reply to my appeal "rejection" letter explaining that I will not be using IAS but will be happy forPPS to take me to court if they see fit?
  • nigelbb
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    In all cases of parking charges what is written on the signs is crucial. Do they require that a ticket is bought within 10 minutes of arrival? You have not overstayed as you paid for the time you stayed so if they don't there is no breach of terms & thus no 'fine' due.
  • nigelbb
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    Umkomaas wrote: »
    However, in the interest of balance, there is one regular contributor (The Deep) who argues that an IAS dismissal of the appeal is likely to be so perverse and contrary to natural justice, there is no way the PPC would dare put it in front of a judge.
    In the interests of balance it should be pointed out that The Deep is a keyboard warrior who pontificates endlessly but has never aided an OP with a single appeal or court case unlike other esteemed contributors like Coupon-Mad who argue that appealing to IAS is unwise.
  • Ianeggbert wrote: »
    Once again, thank you so much for your replies.

    CM - just to clarify from your last post, would you advise that I just sit tight and ignore everything now or would it be beneficial to send a reply to my appeal "rejection" letter explaining that I will not be using IAS but will be happy forPPS to take me to court if they see fit?

    Depends how argumentative you're feeling.

    But generally - for most people - the advice is IGNORE.
  • Umkomaas
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    nigelbb wrote: »
    In the interests of balance it should be pointed out that The Deep is a keyboard warrior who pontificates endlessly but has never aided an OP with a single appeal or court case unlike other esteemed contributors like Coupon-Mad who argue that appealing to IAS is unwise.

    :rotfl:

    And a former member of Her Majesty's Diplomatic Service - and PePiPoo. :)
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • Quentin
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    edited 30 November 2016 at 9:15PM
    Umkomaas wrote: »
    :rotfl:

    And a former member of Her Majesty's Diplomatic Service - and PePiPoo. :)
    Add MSE to your list of his former memberships!


    Don't really think his thoughts on this topic need to be brought up to give any "balance"!
  • Umkomaas
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    Quentin wrote: »
    Add MSE to your list of his former memberships!


    Don't really think his thoughts on this topic need to be brought up to give any "balance"!

    Oh dear, what's the daft owd chop done now? :cool:
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 4 December 2016 at 10:41PM
    I miss DP and was sad to see a PPR next to his name. Hope it's temporary, he's a character. The comment the other day about his tricorn, his sword and his 'black patent jemimas' had me spitting my tea out with laughter!
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