House rewiring, is this a good quote?

SBeswick

Good evening all!

First time posting here so I hope I got everything in the right place!

Myself and my partner have just purchased our first property and the house is in need of a whole rewiring job.

We have got a quote (£3000) for the following;

All accessories finished in white plastic.

Living room;
3x Double Sockets
2x Pendant Light Fittings
1x 1Gang Switch

Downstairs Toilet
1x Light Switch
1x Light - Batten Holder
1x Extractor Fan

Hallway (downstairs);
1x Pendant Light Fittings
1x 2 way switching with upstairs

Kitchen;
4x Double Sockets
1x Pendant Light Fittings
1x 1Gang Switch
Fused spur gas ignition

Conservatory;
2x Double Sockets
1x Wall light fitting

Bedroom 1;
3x Double Sockets (2x USB Out)
1x Pendant Light Fittings
1x 1Gang Switch

Bedroom 2;
3x Double Sockets
1x Pendant Light Fittings
1x Light Switch

Bedroom 3;
2x Double Sockets
1x Pendant Light Fittings
1x Light Switch

Bathroom;
1x Light Pull Cord
1x IP Rated light fitting

Landing (upstairs);
1x Pendant Light Fittings
1x 2Gang 2Way switching with downstairs

Loft;
1x Light switch
1x Pendant Light Fitting

All with a "finished job" covering chased channels. We live in Essex and own a 3 bed terraced house.

Any opinions would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks in advance

anto164

you have a quote - How much for?

Also, covering chased channels - Is this by the use of a proper plasterer or just a fill of filling plaster?

I would say around £2500 - 3000 for the rewire for a fill by the spark. Maybe 3000-3500 for the use of a proper plasterer to fill.

SBeswick

Thanks for replying Anto!

I knew I would of missed something! We got a quote for £3000. I'll be honest I can't remember exactly what he said but he showed me a picture (attached).
Hope this helps!

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brightontraveller

Assuming there replacing consumer unit all new cable sockets switches etc That’s cheap, (wirirng loft and conservatory make it equivalent to 5 bedroom house) if there re plastering even making good its extremely cheap.... most consider making good fill leaving enough for plastered surface by plasterer home owner

BTW not enough sockets in kitchen, strange no extractor elsewhere (you don't have to have them but its advisable ) and no mention of CU change either you've missed it or there not doing it If so points a little bit to cowboy hence the low price,,

I'd say 3k is a minimum without making good I'd say 4-5k more realistic but 2500 deffo cowboy in the sticks desperate for work.

SBeswick

Thanks for your reply!

Everything is being replaced, new regulatory fuse box and wiring throughout. He's only itemised the bits we have asked for.

How many sockets would generally be in a kitchen? This is a first home of ours and just getting to grips with what should be where.

I was thinking of going back to him to add an extractor fan in the bathroom (upstairs) and maybe removing the one in the toilet (downstairs).

The electrician we found was from trust a trader (I assume it means they're trusted?) and had very good reviews. He can't actually fit us in until the middle of Jan so I don't think he's desperate for work.

brightontraveller

SBeswick wrote: »

Thanks for your reply!

Everything is being replaced, new regulatory fuse box and wiring throughout. He's only itemised the bits we have asked for.

How many sockets would generally be in a kitchen? This is a first home of ours and just getting to grips with what should be where.

I was thinking of going back to him to add an extractor fan in the bathroom (upstairs) and maybe removing the one in the toilet (downstairs).

The electrician we found was from trust a trader (I assume it means they're trusted?) and had very good reviews. He can't actually fit us in until the middle of Jan so I don't think he's desperate for work.

Trust a trader means diddly unfortunately and mid jan then he is not busy just knows there is nowt about then Maybe not a cowboy maybe just little slack

Personally I'd go an extractor in kitchen, bathroom and toilet and sockets in hallway and loft ( hoovering tv booster etc ) cooker out let in kitchen, two way lighting in master bedroom so you can turn light of bed, Shaver outlet in bathroom .and light switch in conservatory ? Outside lights and possibly power, smoke/heat alarms
The number of kitchen sockets depends on household size of room etc but I'd say 8 to 10
but as a guide to minimum page 6
http://www.aie.eu/files/PDF%20HBES%20&%20SH%20TF/Adequate%20Provision%20of%20Electrical%20Socket%20Outlets%20in%20the%20hom.pdf

Furts

SBeswick wrote: »

Thanks for your reply!

Everything is being replaced, new regulatory fuse box and wiring throughout. He's only itemised the bits we have asked for.

How many sockets would generally be in a kitchen? This is a first home of ours and just getting to grips with what should be where.

I was thinking of going back to him to add an extractor fan in the bathroom (upstairs) and maybe removing the one in the toilet (downstairs).

The electrician we found was from trust a trader (I assume it means they're trusted?) and had very good reviews. He can't actually fit us in until the middle of Jan so I don't think he's desperate for work.

All your work is covered by the Buildings Regulations. This is the law, and you are responsible for applying for this. Your electrician may be competent, and capable of self certification. If so this takes the legal onus off you. However I say may, because there is no mention of a kitchen extract fan, nor one in the bathroom. There is also no mention of mains smoke alarms interconnected, nor a heat alarm. These omissions add to the inadequate kitchen sockets and send out worrying alarms - forgive the pun - about competence!

Go back and ask searching questions of your electrician. My gut instinct is they may be a first rate cowboy.

anto164

brightontraveller wrote: »

I'd say 3k is a minimum without making good I'd say 4-5k more realistic but 2500 deffo cowboy in the sticks desperate for work.

I would disagree - We had 4x quotes, 3 of which were under £2500 (and included new house burglar alarm), including all relevant test certs and building control cert. We had this done in June this year. And it included a fill plaster. Including some variations, we settled at £2600 (near liverpool) again, don't forget this includes new house burglar alarm!

We weren't living in the house when we got it done which may have helped. Our home is a large 1920s 3 bed semi (suspended floors), with separate toilet / bathroom, downstairs toilet, utility room, detatched garage, with recessed TV points in 3x rooms all fed from a booster under the stairs. We went for 6x double sockets in the kitchen and i'm already wishing we were getting more!

By the way - I would suggest installing more sockets than you think you need. I upped our sockets to 4x dual sockets in the bedroom, and we use nearly all of them already!

I would also encourage maybe a double socket and switched light under the stairs, sockets in hallway upstairs and downstairs (christmas decorations?) Also, think of phone / broadband router location and the relevant phone / electrics. Also, get the boiler on a seperate feed, and interlinked smoke (hallway upstairs / downstairs) / heat detector (kitchen) would be greatly beneficial.

bmthmark

Seems really cheap - too cheap.

I'm based in Bournemouth and I got my 3 bed bungalow rewired, I think mine was around £4.5k.
This included new fuse board (new metal board) and moved board inside.
Included replacing all sockets and switches and I also got extra added to each room.
Included new aerial and TV points in all bedrooms
I had a heat/smoke alarm fitted to kitchen and a couple more throughout property. These were all hooked up to the main circuit with battery backup.
I also got 3 new security lights added and an external sockets (for lawn mower etc).

Basically everything was ripped out and I started again. In the end I received a certificate to state that it has been done. A record has also been added to the local building regs website.

£4.5k sounds a lot but it is a lot of work. Money well spent in the end

bmthmark

anto164 wrote: »

I would disagree - We had 4x quotes, 3 of which were under £2500 (and included new house burglar alarm), including all relevant test certs and building control cert. We had this done in June this year. And it included a fill plaster. Including some variations, we settled at £2600 (near liverpool) again, don't forget this includes new house burglar alarm!

We weren't living in the house when we got it done which may have helped. Our home is a large 1920s 3 bed semi (suspended floors), with separate toilet / bathroom, downstairs toilet, utility room, detatched garage, with recessed TV points in 3x rooms all fed from a booster under the stairs. We went for 6x double sockets in the kitchen and i'm already wishing we were getting more!

By the way - I would suggest installing more sockets than you think you need. I upped our sockets to 4x dual sockets in the bedroom, and we use nearly all of them already!

I would also encourage maybe a double socket and switched light under the stairs, sockets in hallway upstairs and downstairs (christmas decorations?) Also, think of phone / broadband router location and the relevant phone / electrics. Also, get the boiler on a seperate feed, and interlinked smoke (hallway upstairs / downstairs) / heat detector (kitchen) would be greatly beneficial.

Seriously you had 3 quotes under £2500 for a full rewire and new burglar alarm??
What sort of alarm did they fit?

I don't know how any electrician could do it that cheap including all parts and labour

brightontraveller

anto164 wrote: »

I would disagree - We had 4x quotes, 3 of which were under £2500 (and included new house burglar alarm), including all relevant test certs and building control cert. We had this done in June this year. And it included a fill plaster. Including some variations, we settled at £2600 (near liverpool) again, don't forget this includes new house burglar alarm!

We weren't living in the house when we got it done which may have helped. Our home is a large 1920s 3 bed semi (suspended floors), with separate toilet / bathroom, downstairs toilet, utility room, detatched garage, with recessed TV points in 3x rooms all fed from a booster under the stairs. We went for 6x double sockets in the kitchen and i'm already wishing we were getting more!

By the way - I would suggest installing more sockets than you think you need. I upped our sockets to 4x dual sockets in the bedroom, and we use nearly all of them already!

I would also encourage maybe a double socket and switched light under the stairs, sockets in hallway upstairs and downstairs (christmas decorations?) Also, think of phone / broadband router location and the relevant phone / electrics. Also, get the boiler on a seperate feed, and interlinked smoke (hallway upstairs / downstairs) / heat detector (kitchen) would be greatly beneficial.

There are regional variations for labour but doesn’t tend to be for parts and yes empty vacant property will lower cost, no furniture moving, reinstating supply daily etc but 2.5 k including alarm and as you state then I know 99.9 % of the time means they have to cut corners

Extremely unlikely alarms by approved installer or even to approved standard this alone even firms that do nothing else but alarms and install them at just above cost price because they hit you with maintenance charges , call out charges monthly fees etc will charge you £500 to 1k for number of zones you’d need, and they'd surface mount not chase in for that price ,You’ll be saying they did aerial points built in recessed alcoves for tvs timber frame, plasterboard plaster for the 2.5k you’d get little change from 1k (if you had old stock more likely 1.5k for the materials let me guess guy did it on his own :rotfl:Post companies name I’ll give them work for the next ten years and you a 10% commission on every job they do?

Think you'll see there's is a lot the OP electrician missed out and there already more than yours ? give them details £500 I'd say they'll make the trip dowwwwn souuuuth