Resigning pre investigation possible disciplinary and dismissal

sangie595

steampowered wrote: »

I personally think it sounds like you should work out the remainder of your notice.

It doesn't sound like leaving now would increase your chances of getting a good reference. A reference which says "resigned while under investigation" is no better than a reference which says "dismissed for misconduct". A better way of trying to get a neutral reference might be to keep your head down and do your job well for the next month.

It sounds like it would be a bit pointless for them to hold a disciplinary if you are leaving anyway. If they do hold a disciplinary, it is nothing to get stressed about. Just sensibly engage with the process and attend any disciplinary meetings. Nothing to worry about since you'll be gone soon anyway.

Given the reason now provided, I would agree - unless you are in a profession where you will need the reference from this employer, then I can see no reason to not continue with your notice period, and let the cards fall as they will

motorguy

hutman wrote: »

I'm not sure how the labour market functions in other countries; but it is truly ridic how formal the workplace becomes in times of rule enforcement. Terms like 'under investigation' and 'wrongdoing' for petty infringements (if they can be called as such) underline the inflexibility of the labour market and how at unease some workplaces make you feel.

I'm not sure the context of the situation here but if using social media results in such discontent in the higher ups, there's something drastically wrong with the way people are managed, let alone collaborate. If such acts are to be deemed as in infringements, goodness knows why we have an enormous productivity gap in this country. It underscores the lack of trust between the lines of the western model of corporate hierarchy. Op, you're better off to leave and find somewhere where you're valued. Ah labour market liquidity.. the only saviour.

So employees should - in your view - be allowed to sit on social media all day?

motorguy

jfc wrote: »

I work in HR though, that's another issue. My reasons for leaving were that my role changed. I was working as part of the HR Team in the office and then when we moved to a new building I was left on reception (still reporting to HR) I had little contact with others and was basically alone all day with a quiet switchboard and hardly any visitors. I have mental health issues following the break up of a 28 year relationship and my mother being diagnosed with both alzeimers and terminal cancer, I decided to resign to look after her as my sister was considering putting her in a home which my mum would hate

Why are you even remotely concerned about a disciplinary then, given you wont be looking for another job?

Nicki

It sounds a little like OP has been managed out to me. If she's been moved from HR to a completely different role where she has very little work to do and little social interaction, it's easy to see she would quickly feel isolated and unhappy and bored during the day and that there would be a strong temptation to surf the internet or use social media, which is then used as an excuse to dismiss if she won't go quickly and quietly.

I'd be inclined as others say to work your notice OP and let them do their worst. I wouldn't bother with a grievance but if I were feeling strong and assertive, I might speculate in any disciplinary whether the move to reception had been an attempt to constructively dismiss and whether this was on the basis of a protected characteristic such as your mental health or your status as a career, and let them think whether it's worth the risk of firing you for gross misconduct to save a few weeks salary.

Marktheshark

Tin pot "investigations" by tin pot jumped up managers on 50p an hour more are quite normal these days.
I doubt many employers who actually need workers care on bit what some jumped up sprat at the old firm did to make themselves look good.

You are better than this, hit the agencies, find work and tell the jumped up little sprat to foxtrot oscar right in front of the whole workforce right to their face.


You will feel better for many years to come.

Many of the minions on here who live to get off this world leaving no trace they ever existed wont agree.

Some however are better than that and having some pride in yourself is a good quality in life.

jfc

thank you for all your replies. I completed all my tasks on time and to a high standard and whilst not an excuse when I was alone on reception for 2-3 hours at a time with no work (which I repeatedly asked for) I went on social medial to keep me company, I know this was wrong. I have an outpouring of support from my colleagues, all saying they do the same and haven't been pulled up on it. I have made lots of good friends over the time I have been there and I wanted to leave in the normal way, say my goodbyes invite colleagues for drinks etc...I now feel I have lost more than a job. I am very depressed, sorry but that's how I feel.

jfc

my kids have been wonderful though, told me not to worry about Christmas and they will help out financially. (the last months money was going to pay for Christmas)

sangie595

jfc wrote: »

thank you for all your replies. I completed all my tasks on time and to a high standard and whilst not an excuse when I was alone on reception for 2-3 hours at a time with no work (which I repeatedly asked for) I went on social medial to keep me company, I know this was wrong. I have an outpouring of support from my colleagues, all saying they do the same and haven't been pulled up on it. I have made lots of good friends over the time I have been there and I wanted to leave in the normal way, say my goodbyes invite colleagues for drinks etc...I now feel I have lost more than a job. I am very depressed, sorry but that's how I feel.

Invite people out anyway. Nothing is stopping you doing that.

You are in HR - you've 'fessed up quite correctly. You did wrong, you know that, and what other people do isn't relevant. Now move on. You won't ever get caught doing that again because you now know it is a real risk. Yes, everyone does it, and people here spend half their time going "not social media AGAIN" every time someone comes up on a disciplinary. In our region we group email every member ANNUALLY to remind them that this is now our number one reason for dismissal, and it's STILL the number one reason! Lesson learned. Move on.

You can still go out for a drink, but the good news is that you don't have to invite your manager now

While you are caring, if you can manage it, try to get some study time in. Do some distance learning in HR or something. It will help keep your hand in, give you another string to your bow, and provide a more recent reference. I know it costs money usually, and may stretch the budget, but it's worth doing. And it'll help keep you sane- being stuck in the house won't be easy. Add some volunteering later on if possible, and you'll be in a good position to return to work when it's time.

motorguy

Marktheshark wrote: »

Tin pot "investigations" by tin pot jumped up managers on 50p an hour more are quite normal these days.
I doubt many employers who actually need workers care on bit what some jumped up sprat at the old firm did to make themselves look good.

You are better than this, hit the agencies, find work and tell the jumped up little sprat to foxtrot oscar right in front of the whole workforce right to their face.


You will feel better for many years to come.

Many of the minions on here who live to get off this world leaving no trace they ever existed wont agree.

Some however are better than that and having some pride in yourself is a good quality in life.

So employees should - in your view - be allowed to sit on social media all day?