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Resigning pre investigation possible disciplinary and dismissal
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Mr.Generous wrote: »Hadn't thought of that either. I guess it would be down to what you were doing and whether it had a positive or negative impact on your business.
I'm not at all convinced a grievance would be fair and unbiased, but it takes time to arrange, they you get a letter and ask for a particular employee to support you who is off that day, so its re-arranged etc. It buys time, the months notice ticks away nicely. During the meeting you get upset and storm out. HR will tell them to give you another chance so it has to be re-arragged with an impartial manager coming in to hold the meeting ....
Many simply have guidelines which equate to - if you wouldn't say it in the canteen, don't post it online.
A grievance would simply be ignored, and doesn't prevent disciplinary procedure.0 -
I work in HR though, that's another issue. My reasons for leaving were that my role changed. I was working as part of the HR Team in the office and then when we moved to a new building I was left on reception (still reporting to HR) I had little contact with others and was basically alone all day with a quiet switchboard and hardly any visitors. I have mental health issues following the break up of a 28 year relationship and my mother being diagnosed with both alzeimers and terminal cancer, I decided to resign to look after her as my sister was considering putting her in a home which my mum would hate0
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Surely in that case you have nothing to fear from working your notice and the investigation/disciplinary proceeding? It doesn't sound like you are expecting to need a reference any time soon so you would be cutting your nose off to leave now.0
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If you don't necessarily need a reference...then just work your notice and see what happens. There is always the chance that the investigation/process doesn't amount to much.0
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its the stress of it all though I have started to recover from an abusive relationship with the help of counselling, family and medication and then going through mums illness with her, this just seems a load to heavy to carry.0
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It seems to me, from this, and from some other sources, that employers are being way too liberal with the term 'Gross Misconduct'.
This is, at best, a minor infringement of policy, to be dealt with by a a mild reprimand, a slap on the wrist, along with the words "Don't do it again"
Gross misconduct is of the order of being abusive to clients, theft from the company, etc etc.0 -
I work in HR though, that's another issue. My reasons for leaving were that my role changed. I was working as part of the HR Team in the office and then when we moved to a new building I was left on reception (still reporting to HR) I had little contact with others and was basically alone all day with a quiet switchboard and hardly any visitors. I have mental health issues following the break up of a 28 year relationship and my mother being diagnosed with both alzeimers and terminal cancer, I decided to resign to look after her as my sister was considering putting her in a home which my mum would hate
Sorry to hear about the situation with your mum.
Whatever has been going on with your employment situation I think your gut reaction to leave straight away was almost certainly the right one for your mum. Harsh reality for you but you are being there for her when she needs you.
My mum always said "If I get like Grandma then put me in a home." This is because she struggled on for so long looking after Grandma as well as having a husband (our dad) three teenagers & a physically-tiring part-time job. I disagreed with her & she didn't like it, but in the end her own death years later was a quick one (and so, relatively were those of my dad & both my in-laws) but I would have tried my best to look after her if it had been needed. Very difficult balance.
I think, jfc, that you must be very careful to look after your own needs as well, but sure you know that already.
Wishing you all the best.:grouphug:
would've . . . could've . . . should've . . .
A.A.A.S. (Associate of the Acronym Abolition Society)
There's definitely no 'a' in 'definitely'.0 -
I personally think it sounds like you should work out the remainder of your notice.
It doesn't sound like leaving now would increase your chances of getting a good reference. A reference which says "resigned while under investigation" is no better than a reference which says "dismissed for misconduct". A better way of trying to get a neutral reference might be to keep your head down and do your job well for the next month.
It sounds like it would be a bit pointless for them to hold a disciplinary if you are leaving anyway. If they do hold a disciplinary, it is nothing to get stressed about. Just sensibly engage with the process and attend any disciplinary meetings. Nothing to worry about since you'll be gone soon anyway.0 -
Just out of interest, were you using social media as a way of contacting one of your relatives regarding the situation with your sick mother?
would've . . . could've . . . should've . . .
A.A.A.S. (Associate of the Acronym Abolition Society)
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I'm not sure how the labour market functions in other countries; but it is truly ridic how formal the workplace becomes in times of rule enforcement. Terms like 'under investigation' and 'wrongdoing' for petty infringements (if they can be called as such) underline the inflexibility of the labour market and how at unease some workplaces make you feel.
I'm not sure the context of the situation here but if using social media results in such discontent in the higher ups, there's something drastically wrong with the way people are managed, let alone collaborate. If such acts are to be deemed as in infringements, goodness knows why we have an enormous productivity gap in this country. It underscores the lack of trust between the lines of the western model of corporate hierarchy. Op, you're better off to leave and find somewhere where you're valued. Ah labour market liquidity.. the only saviour.
How do you know it's petty? If the OP spent 25% of the working day on social media instead of working, that isn't petty. If the OP was slagging off the employer on social media, that isn't petty.
If they were discussing children in their care on social media, that isn't petty. Since all we know is that the OP is under investigation for social media use DURING WORKING HOURS (in other words, when they are paid to do something for their employer) then we have no idea how serious it is.0
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