Getting Debt-Free despite Struggling with MH problems

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  • UncannyScot
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    Hi
    have just caught up with your diary
    Looking good :D
    looking forward to further updates
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  • wordswords
    wordswords Posts: 40 Forumite
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    edited 22 July 2017 at 7:40PM
    Last Year, A Review

    Lower Total Amount of Debt

    So, total amount of debt now:

    £8000 - personal loan
    £2400 - parental loan
    £1550 - overdraft
    = £11,950 total debt

    This is down from £13,000 last November.

    But.. Taking On More Debt

    However, this is actually a bit of bad news because my original parental loan of £6000 got written off without me having to fully repay that, so in actuality I have been accumulating more debt quite a bit more debt than expected. A lot of this money was unexpected and unavoidable circumstances, such as changing jobs and my girlfriend moving over from Germany. To prevent this happening in the future, I need to start saving money for an emergency fund so I don't have to keep taking on more debt whenever an inevitable unexpected financial problem occurs.

    However, Income Is Rising

    On the plus side, my total income has gone up by £322 a month, to ~£3322 / month. This will allow me space to pay off debts better. This is also not taking into account bonuses from work, of which I expect at least £3000 after tax in May 2018 when I complete a full year at the new place. My monthly debt repayments have got down to £360 from £380 in November also.

    And Personal Circumstances Got Better

    Things have definitely got better in my life circumstances. We no longer have to have a lodger, which will make us far less stressed, my girlfriend has fully moved over from Germany to live in the house, and has started work, I've got a new job which I like a lot more, and we've fixed for 5 years on the house mortgage, meaning a lot more security there. I also have a new mobile phone which I paid for upfront without a contract, which means reduced total cost of ownership bills.
  • wordswords
    wordswords Posts: 40 Forumite
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    edited 22 July 2017 at 8:16PM
    Statement of Affairs and Personal Balance Sheet

    Household Information

    Number of adults in household........... 2
    Number of children in household......... 0
    Number of cars owned.................... 0

    Monthly Income Details

    Monthly income after tax................ 3130
    Partners monthly income after tax....... 100
    Benefits................................ 0
    Other income............................ 0
    Total monthly income.................... 3230


    Monthly Expense Details

    Mortgage................................ 508
    Secured/HP loan repayments.............. 0
    Rent.................................... 0
    Management charge (leasehold property).. 0
    Council tax............................. 80
    Electricity............................. 39
    Gas..................................... 36
    Oil..................................... 0
    Water rates............................. 45
    Telephone (land line)................... 0
    Mobile phone............................ 23
    TV Licence.............................. 13
    Satellite/Cable TV...................... 0
    Internet Services....................... 50
    Groceries etc. ......................... 300
    Clothing................................ 100
    Petrol/diesel........................... 0
    Road tax................................ 0
    Car Insurance........................... 0
    Car maintenance (including MOT)......... 0
    Car parking............................. 0
    Other travel............................ 300
    Childcare/nursery....................... 0
    Other child related expenses............ 0
    Medical (prescriptions, dentist etc).... 15
    Pet insurance/vet bills................. 0
    Buildings insurance..................... 50
    Contents insurance...................... 0
    Life assurance ......................... 0
    Other insurance......................... 10
    Presents (birthday, christmas etc)...... 200
    Haircuts................................ 15
    Entertainment........................... 200
    Holiday................................. 0
    Emergency fund.......................... 0
    Total monthly expenses.................. 1984



    Assets

    Cash.................................... 0
    House value (Gross)..................... 170000
    Shares and bonds........................ 0
    Car(s).................................. 0
    Other assets............................ 5000
    Total Assets............................ 175000



    Secured & HP Debts

    Description....................Debt......Monthly...APR
    Mortgage...................... 126000...(508)......2.22
    Total secured & HP debts...... 126000....-.........-


    Unsecured Debts
    Description....................Debt......Monthly...APR
    Personal Loan..................8000......165.......10
    Parental Loan..................2400......200.......0
    Overdrafts.....................1550......0.........0
    Total unsecured debts..........11950.....365.......-



    Monthly Budget Summary

    Total monthly income.................... 3,230
    Expenses (including HP & secured debts). 1,984
    Available for debt repayments........... 1,246
    Monthly UNsecured debt repayments....... 365
    Amount left after debt repayments....... 881


    Personal Balance Sheet Summary
    Total assets (things you own)........... 175,000
    Total HP & Secured debt................. -126,000
    Total Unsecured debt.................... -11,950
    Net Assets.............................. 37,050


    Created using the SOA calculator at https://www.stoozing.com.
    Reproduced on Moneysavingexpert with permission, using other browser.
  • Update:

    * Job stress is getting to me. Hopefully it is just a temporary blip but work is SO demanding at the moment and I can't cope. I don't know if I should switch jobs.. I have a high income at the moment but at what cost? I think I want to transition out of this current career niche into something a bit more sustainable for the long term.

    * My lodger has finally moved out, giving us a much needed calmer house, plus a spare room which we can finish doing up and then turn into a study.

    * I have drummed up an emergency fund 'pot' of about £600. This is good news.

    * My girlfriend is taking on more work slowly but surely. I don't want to overload her as she hasn't worked for health reasons for 15 years before becoming a self-employed cleaner, but it is nice to have her pay a bit more of the share of bills.

    * I have a high income compared to many SOAs I see on this site and so should be able to make more debt repayments. I think I have a spending problem - I spend a lot on Amazon and it would be good to lock me out of my account somehow, or give the girlfriend the password and tell her to change it. Then I will be less compelled to make random purchases that I don't really need.
  • Sarastro
    Sarastro Posts: 400 Forumite
    Hi Wordswords,

    I stumbled on your thread looking for something else, but as I work in the Mental Health area, I couldn't stop myself reading it. I don't think you need financial advice - you are doing amazingly well reducing your overall debt and managing the various financial ups and downs you've experienced. Many people don't manage to do that so I wanted to say, "well done you".

    Look after yourself, exercise is very good for you. And know that a complete stranger is thinking of you.
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  • I think given your mental health state a high stress job is not good for you especially if it leads to uncontrolled spending which obviously it does. In the long run when the debt is cleared I do think you would benefit from a job with less pressure even if not as well paid.

    Setting some safety nets in place is a good idea and I see you have already implemented one which is the emergency fund so you are not tempted to borrow when things get tough. Start to build that up.

    If you know that Amazon spending is something you do when you feel stressed then give your cards to your girlfriend to look after and remove the numbers from the website.

    Your monthly spending on presents is horrendously high. £200 per month is way above what most people put aside for presents especially if you have debt. Do you buy for a lot of people and why so much?

    You need a plan to pay off that overdraft as well as the two loans.

    If you can just continue as you were before falling off the wagon so to speak then this debt issue will go away and you can focus on building savings which will ease anxiety and give you a cushion should you need to change jobs.
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  • Thanks Sarastro, I really appreciate the encouragement.
  • >I think given your mental health state a high stress job is not good for you especially if it leads to uncontrolled spending which obviously it does. In the long run when the debt is cleared I do think you would benefit from a job with less pressure even if not as well paid.

    I agree, lower stress would be better.

    >Setting some safety nets in place is a good idea and I see you have already implemented one which is the emergency fund so you are not tempted to borrow when things get tough. Start to build that up.

    >If you know that Amazon spending is something you do when you feel stressed then give your cards to your girlfriend to look after and remove the numbers from the website.

    >Your monthly spending on presents is horrendously high. £200 per month is way above what most people put aside for presents especially if you have debt. Do you buy for a lot of people and why so much?

    This is mostly presents 'for myself'.. spending on myself to buy things for my music studio etc. It's not essential, but it does cheer me up and keep me motivated. Which is good. So I don't think it's 'horrendously high' given my income. If my income reduced, that would reduce too.
  • wordswords
    wordswords Posts: 40 Forumite
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    edited 3 November 2018 at 10:19AM
    Right well I have been meaning to update this thread with my current financial situation. There are both good and bad things.


    Bad Things:
    1) I'm in more debt..


    Good Things:
    1) My income has gone up
    2) Work is much more stable and less stressful
    3) Wife is starting a new job soon which will be a huge boost to our finances
    4) I'm back at university in the evenings studying for a degree which could lead to a more interesting career
    5) Mental health is better
    6) House price has rocketed


    Statement of Affairs and Personal Balance Sheet

    Household Information

    Number of adults in household........... 2
    Number of children in household......... 0
    Number of cars owned.................... 0

    Monthly Income Details

    Monthly income after tax................ 3100
    Partners monthly income after tax....... 700
    Benefits................................ 0
    Other income............................ 0
    Total monthly income.................... 3800


    Monthly Expense Details

    Mortgage................................ 508
    Secured/HP loan repayments.............. 0
    Rent.................................... 0
    Management charge (leasehold property).. 0
    Council tax............................. 100
    Electricity............................. 40
    Gas..................................... 50
    Oil..................................... 0
    Water rates............................. 50
    Telephone (land line)................... 50
    Mobile phone............................ 30
    TV Licence.............................. 12
    Satellite/Cable TV...................... 0
    Internet Services....................... 100
    Groceries etc. ......................... 270
    Clothing................................ 70
    Petrol/diesel........................... 0
    Road tax................................ 0
    Car Insurance........................... 0
    Car maintenance (including MOT)......... 0
    Car parking............................. 0
    Other travel............................ 300
    Childcare/nursery....................... 0
    Other child related expenses............ 0
    Medical (prescriptions, dentist etc).... 0
    Pet insurance/vet bills................. 0
    Buildings insurance..................... 50
    Contents insurance...................... 0
    Life assurance ......................... 0
    Other insurance......................... 0
    Presents (birthday, christmas etc)...... 200
    Haircuts................................ 20
    Entertainment........................... 300
    Holiday................................. 0
    Emergency fund.......................... 0
    Total monthly expenses.................. 2150



    Assets

    Cash.................................... 0
    House value (Gross)..................... 210000
    Shares and bonds........................ 0
    Car(s).................................. 0
    Other assets............................ 0
    Total Assets............................ 210000



    Secured & HP Debts

    Description....................Debt......Monthly...APR
    Mortgage...................... 123000...(508)......0
    Total secured & HP debts...... 123000....-.........-


    Unsecured Debts
    Description....................Debt......Monthly...APR
    Loan...........................6424......160.......0
    Boiler Finance.................2035......30........0
    Credit Card Loan...............3870......200.......0
    Total unsecured debts..........12329.....390.......-



    Monthly Budget Summary

    Total monthly income.................... 3,800
    Expenses (including HP & secured debts). 2,150
    Available for debt repayments........... 1,650
    Monthly UNsecured debt repayments....... 390
    Amount left after debt repayments....... 1,260


    Personal Balance Sheet Summary
    Total assets (things you own)........... 210,000
    Total HP & Secured debt................. -123,000
    Total Unsecured debt.................... -12,329
    Net Assets.............................. 74,671


    Created using the SOA calculator at www.stoozing.com.
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  • wordswords
    wordswords Posts: 40 Forumite
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    edited 11 June 2019 at 4:05PM
    Good news:

    • Have fully paid off credit card and overdrafts with bonus money this year, so my only debt is the personal loan at £5000 settlement figure (at £160 / month outgoing) and a 0% £2000 finance agreement/service agreement on the boiler (at £30 /month outgoing) which I am not planning to pay off until we sell the house.
    • Wife has started work and is enjoying it. She is contributing £400 / month to the bills.
    • I am putting a large chunk of my income in the 40% tax bracket to my pension, which is a very cost-effective way of making up for low pension contributions earlier in life. My pension contributions are 23% / month at the moment, and this is reflected in the lower total income of £2800 for me + £400 from wife.

    Bad news:

    • Both of us are too tired to cook in the evenings. This has meant that we have increased our spending on takeaways.
    • My personal entertainment spending has remained high, finding it difficult to cut down on this without it affecting my mood and general enjoyment of life.
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