When is brownfield not brownfield

discotroll

Hi -

I'm aiming to do a single house build project on a small piece of brownfield land I own and could do with advice from anyone in the know about one aspect of this.

Around 70% of the land is brownfield and I have confirmation from my local Planning Authority that this also what they regard it as - my question is whether the rest of the site is included in the 'brownfield' description or, as the local PC would like to have it, 'scrubland'. The site is only small so only about 10m2 of the 'scrubland' would be constructed on but I can't find a definitive answer online.

Any clues?

Thanks,

DT.

AdrianC

"Scrubland" just says what it's currently in use for - nothing productive. It says nothing about whether it's previously been developed (brownfield) or not (greenfield).

discotroll

Yeah - it *was* the corner of a field almost 25 years ago but has been a dumping ground for mattresses and overgrown with saplings since being fenced off back then. Not what I would call 'productive' land...

Doozergirl

It's either brownfield (previously developed) or greenfield. Scrubland is not a definition.

Is it under the same title as the brownfield plot? How did the planners describe it?

discotroll

The entire plot is under one title (if by that we are talking about land registry) and also the local planning department have mapped the planning application as a single plot. The planners haven't gone as far as describing it themselves - they have only confirmed that the nature of previous use for the larger 70% part is 'brownfield' but there is no boundary between the two parts - so literally the local parish council regard the brownfield aspect ending at the edge of the previous building...

daveyjp

Just put the application in.

Parish Councils objections carry no more weight than any others submitted.

As you state the land is unkempt and is subject to fly tipping, so you are doing something about it.

AdrianC

daveyjp wrote: »

Parish Councils objections carry no more weight than any others submitted.

I'd like (as a parish councillor...) to think that they do carry a bit more weight, but I'm realistic enough to know that it's not a heck of a lot.

discotroll

That's not the half of it Daveyjp - we spent a week clearing away the drink bottles and drugs paraphernalia from the site when we first bought it! Oh - there's also the aspect of the Petrol Station as one neighbour and the dual carriageway on the other side so it's not exactly an idyllic meadow :-D

Davesnave

Just don't find any great crested newts or rare bats in your scrub!

discotroll

AdrianC wrote: »

I'd like (as a parish councillor...) to think that they do carry a bit more weight, but I'm realistic enough to know that it's not a heck of a lot.

Yes Adrian - I think the problem on this occassion is that any legitimate objections or concerns have been bundled up with some personal issues to help 'bulk-out' the over all objection package.

The worst part is that the local PC is slapping me down from one side whilst (unknow to that side) discussing the self-same project as part of their neighbourhood plan on the other side! :eek: