Driver but not registered keeper!

Doz_Jax

Hello, I hope you guys can help clear something up for me.
I went out last night in a car belonging to my partner (I am a named driver) I parked at the back of the restaurant (where I have parked several times before, no signs, no meters for parking tickets, no lines on the tarmac for parking bays, no yellow/white lines, no gates....nothing!!)
I returned to the car where I found a Parking Charge Notice from Vehicle Control Services informing me I have to pay £100 or £60 if I pay within 14 days because I was 'Parked Without Displaying a Valid Ticket/Permit'.
I went back into the restaurant, the waiter said the sign was in the far corner of another building at the back, I went looking for it and found it in the far corner, it was a sign no bigger than an A4 piece of paper and appeared to mean parking behind that building was not allowed, nothing on the building that was nearer to where I was parked!! The land is L shaped so it's a bit hard for me to explain, anyway the point is I have read forums about this company, I am quite happy to tell them to whistle for it.
However because the car is not registered to me I'm not sure how it works! I'm guessing if I 'own up' I'm dropping myself in it (so to speak) and if I don't they will chase my partner for it, he will urge me to pay it as he doesn't want to be chased by parking firms or debt collectors.
I have read some forums that state the registered keeper is responsible and I have also read that the driver is responsible.....which is it please?
And if my partner does get a letter and he tells them he wasn't driving does he have to prove this?
And also would he get into trouble if he refuses to name the person driving that day?
Thanks in advance for any advice, Dee

catfunt

First things first - I suggest you edit your post and break it up into more readable paragraphs rather than the lump of text as it appears now.

This may sound fussy, but believe me, it makes a big difference when scanning through the number of new posts that arrive on here each day.

Doz_Jax

I'm trying to figure out how to edit it and shrink it down

Thanks, I have shrunk it down a little and broke it into paragraphs, hope this helps

Marktheshark

no signs = no contract.
Get back in good light and photograph the car park from all angles.

yotmon

Doz_Jax wrote: »

Hello, I hope you guys can help clear something up for me.

However because the car is not registered to me I'm not sure how it works! I'm guessing if I 'own up' I'm dropping myself in it (so to speak) and if I don't they will chase my partner for it, he will urge me to pay it as he doesn't want to be chased by parking firms or debt collectors.


I have read some forums that state the registered keeper is responsible and I have also read that the driver is responsible.....which is it please?

The driver is responsible for the parking, but the ppc don't know who that is, so they obtain keeper details from the dvla and then invite the keeper to inform them who was driving. Basically, if they don't, then the ppc can hold the keeper responsible for the alleged debt. But, if they do chase the keeper, then they have to abide by the Pofa act 2012.

At this early stage you should gather evidence to support your case. take photos of the sign and its distance from where you parked. If you parked in the dark, then take pictures in the dark to show how it actually was.

Have a read of the newbies thread, you will need to appeal to vcs with the pro-forma letter of appeal targeted at the IAS - not the BPA one.

Oh, and by the way, don't be offended when they reject your appeal, its just what they do, it's not personal...

Redx

he wont get into trouble if he does not name the driver

but under POFA2012 it may be that he is held to be liable for the charge and will be pursued on that basis for up to 6 years , possibly in court

if he names the driver, the driver will be pursued for up to 6 years, possibly in court

VCS dont follow POFA2012 but that wont stop them trying to extort the money and they will cheat and lie and deceive to do so