Stealing House from Kid?

AdrianC

AnotherJoe wrote: »

Doh! Thats why "hunters" put "was".

"was done" is fairly imprecise...

"was historically done"? Yes.
"was done in this case"? No.

hunters

AdrianC wrote: »

There are no "deeds" to store, unless nothing has changed with the property - including being remortgaged - since before compulsory land registration in the 90s.

Absolutely but it's quite likely the parents bought the house when it was common to leave that £1 on the mortgage for the free storage.

hunters

AdrianC wrote: »

"was done" is fairly imprecise...

"was historically done"? Yes.
"was done in this case"? No.

Oops sorry I didn't realise you knew the OP

AdrianC

hunters wrote: »

Absolutely but it's quite likely the parents bought the house when it was common to leave that £1 on the mortgage for the free storage.

Sure, but the relevant date would be the date at which the mortgage charge would have been re-recorded. If the place was unregistered then, it would have had to be registered as part of the mortgage change.

moneyistooshorttomention

FBaby wrote: »

Expecting inheritance is never a good sign of integrity and independence. Maintenance given to a mother to look after her children is not money to save for the children. She would have used her income to support them instead of their dad, so absolutely rubbish to say that she should get any money from the house in lieu of the maintenance her dad didn't pay.

I'm sorry but I have little sympathy for your partner. Maybe she got a raw deal, but it's time she moves on. Her mum is perfectly entitled to sell HER house and to spend the proceeds as she wishes. It has nothing to do with your partner. Maybe it is because of your partner attitude of entitlement towards the house that is making her mother want to sell it now.

As I read it - the father gave HIS half share of the house to the mother as a one-off payment (for the children) rather than giving maintenance money to this woman to bring up their children. Therefore it's not so much an "inheritance" - it's actually the father's deferred maintenance money.

If he had known what this woman would do (ie in trying to break this agreement made in the course of the divorce settlement) then he would have, most probably, made maintenance payments at the time instead of giving away his half of the house to her (on a temporary - live in whilst alive basis).

AdrianC

20/20 hindsight doesn't affect anything much, though.

rosyw

FBaby wrote: »

Expecting inheritance is never a good sign of integrity and independence. Maintenance given to a mother to look after her children is not money to save for the children. She would have used her income to support them instead of their dad, so absolutely rubbish to say that she should get any money from the house in lieu of the maintenance her dad didn't pay.

I'm sorry but I have little sympathy for your partner. Maybe she got a raw deal, but it's time she moves on. Her mum is perfectly entitled to sell HER house and to spend the proceeds as she wishes. It has nothing to do with your partner. Maybe it is because of your partner attitude of entitlement towards the house that is making her mother want to sell it now.

Precisely!!

No matter what your partner has told you, unless you were actually there you can't possibly know exactly what happened when she was younger.

I have 2 daughters, the eldest has always had the "sense of entitlement" FBaby speaks of, always expected hand outs/financial help as if it were a "right" , always claimed that her younger sister was the "favourite" etc, which was never true. When we finally closed the bank of mum & dad all hell broke loose! When my husband died I was blamed for not being able to keep our family home, finances simply didn't permit, she'd always considered it to be her inheritance, but it was by then MY house, to do with as I wished - or needed.Her sister on the other hand stepped up to help with what needed to be done without the slightest resentment.
Eldest hasn't spoken to me or her sister for about 4 years now and I dread to think what horror stories she's concocted to explain this to her friends.
What ever house I possess when I shuffle off this mortal coil will go to my youngest - after all it is MY HOUSE, to do with as I see fit. No one is "stealing" anything from my eldest - it's not hers in the first place!

Cakeguts

Parents with favourites like this often cut their non favourite child out of their will or leave them less. It makes the non favourite child feel rejected all over again. However I feel that is it good not to have anything that reminds the non favourite child of the childhood traumas. The father is not blameless in this because he allowed it to happen.

The best thing is to cut all ties and have nothing to do with them.

Kynthia

Nothing is being stolen from her as it's not hers. The house it seems belongs to the mother and she can do what she likes with it. I don't think it was right of the father to put conditions onto the money he should have been paying to support his children. Inheritance is only once someone is dead and before then there is no entitlement to their money or assets and someone can spend all of it if they like.

FBaby

As I read it - the father gave HIS half share of the house to the mother as a one-off payment (for the children) rather than giving maintenance money to this woman to bring up their children. Therefore it's not so much an "inheritance" - it's actually the father's deferred maintenance money.

The above doesn't make sense. As stated before, maintenance is not 'for the children', it is for the resident parent to help pay towards their everyday needs. If he had paid maintenance, the kids would not have received the cash, it would have been spent towards the cost of electricity and gas, clothes, transport, food etc... If he made a deal that he would gift the house instead, that gift was to the mother who then ended up paying all the above on her own, hence inevitably sacrificing any disposable income towards herself or her ability to save.

This is the reason why maintenance stops when the child finishes college because they are then expected to support themselves rather than rely on their parents.

The house was never OP's to have. Yes, it might have been her mother's intention to pass it on to both her children, but clearly she has changed her mind and that is her right to do so.

My parents are getting older and are talking more and more about inheritance and the rest. I tell them to spend every penny on themselves to enjoy their life whilst they still can. They worked hard to get what they have, they deserve to spend it all on themselves.