Question about NCP PCN please

vanchett

I've read the newbie thread and have determined that I have received a NTK PCN from the NCP. I'm not clear as to when I should have received this letter or which template to use in response.

The date of the alleged incident was the 19th October. The letter was posted on the 8th November and the letter states the 'date of notice' as the 10th November.

This is a car park where you take a ticket on entry and then pay at a machine, or at the exit. You don't display the ticket and you can't actually exit the car park without paying (which they are alledging is what happened -number plate recognition). Unless they have evdence of me dismantling the barrier I'm not sure how I'm supposed to have exited without paying!

I've got three questions:

1. Should the NCP have written to me within 15 days of the 'incident'? No mention of a windscreen ticket (which is correct as it isn't that type of car park)
2. Is it worth providing 'evidence' to try to dispute it? I have the ticket from the day (it is a car park that records your reg on entry and links it to the ticket that you take. After you have paid, when you drive to the exit the technology reads your reg, recognises you have paid and lifts the barrier, so you don't physically have to insert the ticket on exit -There is no way of getting out of this car park without paying!) I also have a bank statment which shows the charge coming out of my account the day after, although I can't prove that the charge was a) for this particular carpark or b)for the day before.
3. Can you advise on which template I should use please as the BPA template doesn't appear to fit my circumstances.

Thanks for your help.

pappa_golf

this is a case if faulty ANPR equipment , look at http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co.uk/2016/11/picture-of-week-anpr-error.html

follow the appeal system in the newbies section , when you win do this http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co.uk/2016/11/smart-parking-settle-out-of-court-for.html


use the BPA template , as you just want a popla code , ncp will never drop the charge on appeal

Redx

1) if they wish to invoke keeper liability from the keeper with the postal NTK , yes

if not , they can pursue the driver (if known ) , within 6 years

2) yes provide "evidence" but dont dob the driver in and redact any personal info

3) the BPA is designed to fit "all circumstances", but add a note that

THE DRIVER PAID FOR THE TICKET FOR THE DURATION OF THE STAY AND THE EVIDENCE IS ATTACHED

and

THE NOTICE TO KEEPER FAILED POFA2012 AS IT WASNT POSTED OR RECEIVED WITHIN THE 14 DAYS AS REQUIRED UNDER THE ACT

the template is deliberately designed to give nothing away, in ANY appeal

vanchett

Thank you both for your quick replies.

Apologies for the thick question, is the BPA template the one typed in blue as that mentions signs and my issue doesn't fit with that.

pappa_golf

forget the words , its the blue one , you just want a POPLa code and let popla sort it , coz NCP just want money and will not drop it

vanchett

pappa_golf wrote: »

forget the words , its the blue one , you just want a POPLa code and let popla sort it , coz NCP just want money and will not drop it

Ah ok. Thanks again.

Redx

the contract was formed by the signs , as you did not speak to a human being

if you abided by the signs , then the contract was complete

any machine or computer errors are their problem , not yours

Coupon-mad

vanchett wrote: »

Thank you both for your quick replies.

Apologies for the thick question, is the BPA template the one typed in blue as that mentions signs and my issue doesn't fit with that.

Oh yes it does (always)!

Autolycus2000

pappa_golf wrote: »

ncp will never drop the charge on appeal

They did for me last month. :-)

vanchett

Just thought I'd post a quick update. I decided to try appealing to the NCP in the first instance as I had solid evidence that I had paid. They responded within the week and have cancelled the notice.