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Hard to believe

There has been a posting on another forum that I am a member of about one of the members getting a parking ticket because he was 7 minutes over a recently reduced to 1 hour time limit at a shopping centre.
He said in his post ‘that I actually deserved getting that ticket, I was inexcusably over the revised time limit.’ He also said that were ‘many cars with yellow envelopes on their windows’.
I explained to him about ‘grace periods’ and don’t fund the scam and look at MSE to see your options.


He replied thanking me and explaining amongst other points
‘UKPC, along with others, have a simple policy: Their charge is £100, reduced to £60 if you pay within 14 days, the "discounted" sum not applying in the even that an appeal is made against the issue of the penalty. Therefore just the gesture of appealing costs £40, and as a lawyer, I consider my prospects of winning any appeal on the basis of fact to be infinitesimally low.
So he is a lawyer and he comes up with this cr*p – is there any hope?
How could he be put right?
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  • Redx
    Redx Posts: 38,084 Forumite
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    he could employ the free services of the MSE forum regulars here and easily win at popla, thereby proving you right , him wrong and save money as well
  • Myriddin
    Myriddin Posts: 223 Forumite
    StellaDude wrote: »
    So he is a lawyer and he comes up with this cr*p – is there any hope?
    You certainly wouldn't want him handling a divorce settlement if he caves in this easily! :eek:
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  • Myriddin wrote: »
    You certainly wouldn't want him handling a divorce settlement if he caves in this easily! :eek:

    You could recommend him for you ex wife/husband to be :rotfl:
  • Quentin
    Quentin Posts: 40,405 Forumite
    Why would a "lawyer" bother to post this? Just looks like a bit of PPC instigated propaganda.
  • Quentin wrote: »
    Why would a "lawyer" bother to post this? Just looks like a bit of PPC instigated propaganda.


    His reason was that it was a warning to be careful at carparks (it is a motoring related forum).
  • Quentin
    Quentin Posts: 40,405 Forumite
    StellaDude wrote: »
    His reason was that it was a warning to be careful at carparks (it is a motoring related forum).
    Sounds even more fishy.


    Members of motor related forums don't need a "lawyer" to warn them to be careful when overstaying in carparks, or face a penalty - whether in a private car park or council type car park.


    (Though this "lawyer" had a sound defence based on the grace period, which were he genuine should have been the point of his post, rather than his "advice" to save £40 and pay up to UKPC and any others his readers fall foul of!)
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 43,711 Forumite
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    He's obviously got more money than sense - and UKPC are now about to receive some of it!

    A fool and his money are soon parted!
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

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  • beamerguy
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    edited 7 November 2016 at 12:13AM
    StellaDude wrote: »
    I consider my prospects of winning any appeal on the basis of fact to be infinitesimally low.
    So he is a lawyer and he comes up with this cr*p – is there any hope?

    Tell him that right now PPC's are seeking a lawyer as their current ones fail them in court.

    He might even get on well with a judge just like those before him ??

    He sounds just the chap
  • Half_way
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    It would be tempting to get a ticket in that car park, and then show them step by step on how it was defeated.
    The flip side of the coin are the stubborn ignorers
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  • Coupon-mad
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    StellaDude wrote: »
    His reason was that it was a warning to be careful at carparks (it is a motoring related forum).

    Sounds like a parking firm employee. Madness.

    We have around 99% success at POPLA.

    Similar with court defences, very high success in seeing these off. More UKPC hearings have been won here than lost.

    Ho hum... :)
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