Do I have to tell the LL I changed the lock?

theartfullodger

This may be helpful for those actually interested in understanding rights here...
http://www.landlordlawblog.co.uk/2010/07/13/locks-and-keys-%E2%80%93-what-are-tenants-rights/

marksoton

theartfullodger wrote: »

This may be helpful for those actually interested in understanding rights here...
http://www.landlordlawblog.co.uk/2010/07/13/locks-and-keys-%E2%80%93-what-are-tenants-rights/

So in reality, change the bloody locks.

There really are times in life when you just get on with things.

If people wish to sit around for eternity talking a load of broken biscuits regarding the subject so be it.

Decent LL's would have no issue with this.

Miss_Samantha

marksoton wrote: »

Decent LL's would have no issue with this.

Decent landlords want decent tenants. Changing the locks, especially in that way, raises many red flags.

Of course, and again, changing the locks may have consequences for the tenant.

As note, the site artfulodger linked to sometimes isn't complete (i.e. tends to err on the side that landlords can't do much where it isn't the case) or includes errors. Recently they posted on article on s.21 that was completely incorrect, luckily they took it down since.

PersianCatLady

This may be helpful for those actually interested in understanding rights here...
http://www.landlordlawblog.co.uk/2010/07/13/locks-and-keys-–-what-are-tenants-rights/
I have only skim read your link but nowhere there did I see a single legal reference to any statute or case law on the issue, because there isn't any.


Honestly this link has no definitive statement on the issue because it uses comments such as -
* Generally....
* So far as I am aware....
* This will normally be....
* My view is that....
* However this may not always be the case....
Do you get the idea????

Miss_Samantha

Yes, that's quite usual...

The fact is that a tenant has to allow access in a number of cases and, obviously, changing the locks makes the tenant's life more difficult in these cases.

In addition, if a tenant breaches a term of the lease, he may be held liable for the resulting loss, as pointed out.
If a tenant changes the locks in breach of the tenancy and without informing the landlord I can't see why the landlord wouldn't be entitled to seek reimbursement of his travel costs and time for any aborted visit. There isn't a requirement for a case law on such straightforward contact law....

Hence, general advice like "just change the locks" has to be simplistic and bad advice. In real life things can be complex and subtle.

marksoton

Miss_Samantha wrote: »

Decent landlords want decent tenants. Changing the locks, especially in that way, raises many red flags.

Of course, and again, changing the locks may have consequences for the tenant.

As note, the site artfulodger linked to sometimes isn't complete (i.e. tends to err on the side that landlords can't do much where it isn't the case) or includes errors. Recently they posted on article on s.21 that was completely incorrect, luckily they took it down since.

Right, enough. Tell me, quite clearly and in simple terms what exactly?
And i don't mean in legalese.

As Delia said " Come on, let's be having you"

I respect you as a poster but you've repeated this line so many times and NEVER substantiated it. Not once. Never. Didn't happen.

So do so now. And prove me utterly, totally wrong.

As others like to do i'll wager a substantial contribution to charity you can't.

All your's......

Miss_Samantha

I have mentioned specific examples of consequences in several of my posts in this very thread.

marksoton

Miss_Samantha wrote: »

I have mentioned specific examples of consequences in several of my posts in this very thread.

No you have not.

Your rhetoric is frankly exhausting on this subject. And plain wrong.

If the locks get changed there is NO, i repeat NO tangible consequence to a tenant.

If there is, show me it. The sizeable donation to charity is still up for grabs....

robatwork

Just remember who may have the key to your property if you don't change the locks.

Anybody.

Miss_Samantha

marksoton wrote: »

If the locks get changed there is NO, i repeat NO tangible consequence to a tenant.

That's incorrect, as discussed, with concrete examples.

Your use of large bold capital letters will not change that however you want it.