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Nissan to build a new plant.

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As a remainer I'll get in first.

This is excellent news and hopefully it'll be the start of many good news items.
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  • stator
    stator Posts: 7,441 Forumite
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    New car, same plant
    Changing the world, one sarcastic comment at a time.
  • michaels
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    But upgraded to max 600k cars per year from 500k - 100k cars per year is not a small 'factory' in its own right.

    The cynic in me wonders how much we taxpayers are paying (or garanteeing) for the priviledge of Renault-Nissan boosting their profits.
    I think....
  • Conrad
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    edited 27 October 2016 at 1:25PM
    michaels wrote: »

    The cynic in me wonders how much we taxpayers are paying (or garanteeing) for the priviledge of Renault-Nissan boosting their profits.



    We always argued we Brits are not stupid and would take steps to ensure Brexit is a success. This is a crucial point endlessly dismissed by the gloom-brigade that always said bad stuff will happen and we will just sit there and take it.


    EU rules make Government supporting of industry harder as it is deemed unfair. Free of the EU we can incentivise business however we so wish


    Again we are not weak petitioners when it comes to the EU negotiation, we have all sorts of aces and plans up our sleeve. Hence why the remaoner assertion we have no aces and 'will be punished' was always so impotent
  • mayonnaise
    mayonnaise Posts: 3,690 Forumite
    Conrad wrote: »
    We always argued we Brits are not stupid and would take steps to ensure Brexit is a success.

    By shielding business against the negative impact of brexit. :rotfl:

    Mr. Carlos Ghosn has a word with Theresa and a week later he announces continued investment in Sunderland thanks to "support and assurances" from the government.
    Do you ever wonder what these "support and assurances" entail?
    Don't blame me, I voted Remain.
  • Yamumuk
    Yamumuk Posts: 119 Forumite
    I wonder if Nissan have been told we are staying in the E.U as Brexit is in fact undeliverable ? Or some words along the lines of "There is no way out of being in the single market... chop, chop, order some steel."

    Although it will likely be French, like those submarines or Chinese like Hinckley.
  • Conrad
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    mayonnaise wrote: »
    By shielding business against the negative impact of brexit. :rotfl:




    There is no negative impact other than fear that the EU will deliberately self harm its own trade, but more and more people recognise this simply will never happen.
  • steampowered
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    Conrad wrote: »
    There is no negative impact other than fear that the EU will deliberately self harm its own trade, but more and more people recognise this simply will never happen.
    Really? No negative impact?

    This is what has happened to the value of the pound (120 day and 5 year graphs):

    GBP-USD-120-day-exchange-rate-history-graph-large.png

    GBP-USD-1825-day-exchange-rate-history-graph-large.png
  • wotsthat
    wotsthat Posts: 11,325 Forumite
    michaels wrote: »
    The cynic in me wonders how much we taxpayers are paying (or garanteeing) for the priviledge of Renault-Nissan boosting their profits.

    Every man and his investing dog are going to want a piece of this action.
  • Really? No negative impact?
    You really need to read more and then begin to understand the benefits of a lower £.
    LOADS has been written recently; are you determined to ignore it all?
    Here's just one to start you off:
    http://www.economicshelp.org/blog/1882/economics/winners-and-losers-from-weak-pound/
  • mayonnaise wrote: »
    By shielding business against the negative impact of brexit. :rotfl:

    Mr. Carlos Ghosn has a word with Theresa and a week later he announces continued investment in Sunderland thanks to "support and assurances" from the government.
    Do you ever wonder what these "support and assurances" entail?

    Consider that Carlos Ghosn is also in charge of Renault.
    So - quite besides France as possible sites for production or even Romania as with Dacia - he could have gone with say Argentina:
    http://blog.alliance-renault-nissan.com/content/renault-nissan-alliance-investment-argentina-tops-us-800-million
    Or perhaps Brazil:
    http://press.renault.co.uk/Corporate/e74933d0-ff99-4d11-91ee-802dc9ceca57.aspx
    Or maybe Pakistan:
    http://uk.reuters.com/article/us-pakistan-autos-idUKKCN0XW2HP

    Of course, none of these would ever DREAM of providing any form of "assistance" to Nissan/Renault, now would they?
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