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Forced to resign

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  • Lol sorry for that I am very emotional and find it difficult to write about.
  • Guest101
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    Blodwyn26 wrote: »
    Thanks for the honest reply bu:eek:t why am i being managed out? I have been a excellent emplyer for 11 years with no complaints.....why do employers not support in my case? Really don't understand what I have done so wrong......what standing up for one's self?



    1. They see you as a trouble maker
    2. They don't care
    3. They are trying to avoid paying redundancy (though this doesn't seem likely anyway, given the side move)
    4. They don't like you
    5. They're concerned that you are going to cause problems with ICO, etc.
    6. ....


    Honestly it could be any or all of the above and more besides. It really doesn't matter why. It's clear that sooner or later you wont be working there.
  • Undervalued
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    edited 26 October 2016 at 5:18PM
    Blodwyn26 wrote: »
    I signed sick been to Occ Health who recommends that i am redeployed in another location under a different management structure.....

    OK, to deal with this one aspect....

    As I said earlier OH can recommend any adjustment that they believe is in your best medical interest. That doesn't in itself make an adjustment reasonable. The firm may genuinely not have such a job available or, even if they do, they may not feel that you are ideally qualified for it. They are certainly not obliged to create a job or give it to somebody without the necessary skills.

    However if such a job exists and you are a suitable person for it then yes, that may well constitute a "reasonable adjustment".

    Does it exist and are you able to do it?

    In what way are your union "not being helpful"? Remember it is not "helpful" just to make sympathetic noises and promise things they cannot deliver. What exactly do you feel they should be doing?
  • Thank you I think you have been the most honest person throughout giving it to me straight, as it is. I thank you as it makes things clear ��
  • Thank you however I do believe Guest post and that I am being managed out it's so much clearer now. Even if there was a post I believe that will ensure that post will not be suitable in any case just to get rid of someone who has stood up for themselves and identified their wrongdoings. So after 11 years of hard work, 2/3 years of stress pain and suffering I will hand my notice in with head held high and try to repair the damage and get a job elsewhere taking what I have learned with me which is ... any concerns keep to one's self and run for the bloody hills as fast as you can. Cheers anyway x
  • Guest101
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    Blodwyn26 wrote: »
    Thank you however I do believe Guest post and that I am being managed out it's so much clearer now. Even if there was a post I believe that will ensure that post will not be suitable in any case just to get rid of someone who has stood up for themselves and identified their wrongdoings. So after 11 years of hard work, 2/3 years of stress pain and suffering I will hand my notice in with head held high and try to repair the damage and get a job elsewhere taking what I have learned with me which is ... any concerns keep to one's self and run for the bloody hills as fast as you can. Cheers anyway x



    Don't hand in your notice (that's not what I was suggesting!)


    Get a new job first.
  • Undervalued
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    edited 26 October 2016 at 3:58PM
    Blodwyn26 wrote: »
    Thanks for the honest reply bu:eek:t why am i being managed out? I have been a excellent emplyer for 11 years with no complaints.....why do employers not support in my case? Really don't understand what I have done so wrong......what standing up for one's self?

    Because, to be blunt, staff are a commodity and HR are there to minimise the hassle staff cause (from the company's point of view)!

    Once you have to fall back on your legal rights, raise grievances, make complaints to outside bodies etc etc the writing is generally on the wall.

    You may have been a good worker but then so too may the person who allegedly assaulted you. You may have been totally blameless but, from the company's point of view, you have virtually forced them into taking disciplinary action against a colleague, made complaints to outside bodies and taken significant amounts of time off sick.

    They may well feel that the easiest solution for them is for you to depart and, almost certainly, by one means or another they will achieve that. That may not be fair but it is most likely what will happen.

    Have the union suggested the possibility of a settlement agreement? Basically you would agree to go quietly in exchange for some money and a decent reference? It may well be the best option for your health if nothing else.

    Just to add, Having seen your comments that crossed with mine, do not resign without at least discussing this with the union first.
  • But what if they start the capability process wouldn't this go in my record and hinder me from gaining employment elsewhere?
  • It is not acceptable that a colleague assualted me and yes I insisted they took disaplinary action as I don't go to work to be assualted and feel that this is not ok....there is such a thing as duty of care which I believe the emplyer has towards a member of staff who has been assualted at work.

    Company has declined giving any settlement and union stated that they would be looking at starting capability route due to bring on sick stress breakdown and anxiety and depression.
  • Undervalued
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    Blodwyn26 wrote: »
    But what if they start the capability process wouldn't this go in my record and hinder me from gaining employment elsewhere?

    That is another good reason to seek a settlement agreement with a pre-agreed reference.

    They would then be obliged to respond to any reference request only with the form of words that has been agreed. You would most likely have to sign a confidentiality agreement basically saying that you won't bad mouth the company or anybody who worked there.

    As it stands if you simply resign they can say anything they like in a reference as long as it is true and not deliberately misleading.

    It may not be possible to reach an agreement but I would strongly suggest you talk to your union about the possibility.
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