Parkingeye PCN - Ultimate outdoors Dudley

Eddcross80

Hello,

I received a PCN dated 13 Oct for 'overstaying' the 2 free hours parking at Ultimate Outdoors, Dudley.

A few facts - need to respond to appeal by 27th for 14 day window (if assumingly go on to lose all appeals and still be able to pay 'reduced' fee of £60, rather than £100.)

Facts: I was not driver (honestly!) - was 'in laws' who borrowed car for day, they are from NZ and were on holiday (which makes it all a little interesting, as I can't seem to conclude whether they could be pursued as non UK residents for ultimately a CCJ which could ultimately be chased in NZ.)

I think they did stay too long, they had no idea of restrictions, there are a number of signs in car park (not at entrance with full termss, only stating max 2 hours and read signs in car park for terms), although interestingly they could in theory have parked and left car park by stairs without passing a full sign once out of the car (no idea whether they did or not)

The parkingeye letter seems to cover the points highlighted on here, including the para on para(9) that driver required to pay etc, and after 29 days from date given etc right to recover from keeper.

Landowner - interestingly Intu (the Retail park) fully bought out the park in 2016, and state that their car parks are managed by UKPC, so cannot work out why this one is Parkingeye, when it is part of the Retail park.

Question - I am never sure why the driver should never be disclosed. (as I am interested if in this case, the fact they are in NZ will put off Parkingeye.) My problem being if they do write, the 'in laws' will pay up.

Should I just be going with the standard template in the newbies thread for now to generate the POPLA code for appeal.

Thanks for any help in advance,

Coupon-mad

A few facts - need to respond to appeal by 27th for 14 day window (if assumingly go on to lose all appeals and still be able to pay 'reduced' fee of £60, rather than £100.)

That's not a fact, you do not need to appeal quickly and there is NO POINT rushing. The appeal window is ALWAYS 28 days with ParkingEye unless it's a hire car (21 days).

You can't lose all appeals and 'still pay' £60. Stop looking at the stoooopid 14 day discount BRIBE. There is no rush. Stop, calm down. Appeal within 28 days. It is £100, all or nothing.

Facts: I was not driver (honestly!) - was 'in laws' who borrowed car for day, they are from NZ and were on holiday (which makes it all a little interesting, as I can't seem to conclude whether they could be pursued as non UK residents for ultimately a CCJ which could ultimately be chased in NZ.)

That is better fact!

Question - I am never sure why the driver should never be disclosed. (as I am interested if in this case, the fact they are in NZ will put off Parkingeye.) My problem being if they do write, the 'in laws' will pay up.

Ouch - are they that daft? Sorry but REALLY?? More money than sense...even if you explain?

I would be going for the landowner complaint first. Suggest maybe the in-laws returned (double visit) if that looks possible. Many landowners will cancel when a family of shoppers complains.

Then if that doesn't work, in your case I would name the driver and give their NZ address and warn them that if PE write to them it's a well-known UK scam.