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Help with Hayes Matalan PCN

Hayespcn
Hayespcn Posts: 10 Forumite
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edited 20 October 2016 at 5:51PM in Parking tickets, fines & parking
Hi,

I went to one of the Matalan in West London for the first time. We stayed there for nearly 40 mins. I stayed in the car with my asleep kids while my other half went into the shop and bought something from there. After a few days later I have received PCN from smart parking.

I went to the store and talked to store manager and she suggested to appeal it.

Please help me with any template for my appeal.

Really appreciate your input and help in advance.
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  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 43,765 Forumite
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    Read the newbies FAQ sticky, near the top of the forum thread list, one page back from here. Post #1 of the sticky explains the opening phase of dealing with this and includes the (blue text) initial appeal that you will use, verbatim (no changes), to make your first move.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • Hayespcn
    Hayespcn Posts: 10 Forumite
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    Hi,

    I am sorry but I am struggling to find it? I am using iPad. Please could you help me with this.

    Thanks,
  • beamerguy
    beamerguy Posts: 17,587 Forumite
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    Hayespcn wrote: »
    Hi,

    I am sorry but I am struggling to find it? I am using iPad. Please could you help me with this.

    Thanks,

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4816822

    It is not Matalan Smart .... just Smart Parking
  • Umkomaas
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    Hayespcn wrote: »
    Hi,

    I am sorry but I am struggling to find it? I am using iPad. Please could you help me with this.

    Thanks,

    So am I.

    Hit the 'Back' button ( < ) at the top of your screen, which will take you back one page to the thread list, then count 3 threads down from the top and it's headed like this.
    **NEWBIES!! PRIVATE PARKING TICKET? OLD OR NEW? **READ THESE FAQS FIRST!** Thankyou!

    Just giving links to newbies doesn't help them to learn to navigate the forum, which will be essential for you in researching how to deal with your PCN.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 155,613 Forumite
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    Smart are so easy to beat at POPLA stage - as long as the keeper appeals, not saying who was driving. So use the template newbies thread appeal in blue writing. If you can't see it please look again because it's the only appeal in blue writing!
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • Hayespcn
    Hayespcn Posts: 10 Forumite
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    Coupon-mad wrote: »
    Smart are so easy to beat at POPLA stage - as long as the keeper appeals, not saying who was driving. So use the template newbies thread appeal in blue writing. If you can't see it please look again because it's the only appeal in blue writing!

    Do I need to tailor make this to suite my case? I went to the store and one of the managers said one of the machine which is the only one at front was not working. But I have no proof of that.

    Thanks.
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 155,613 Forumite
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    No. Submit it as it is, online, calling yourself the registered keeper if there is a drop-down menu that asks the question (NOT driver).
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • Edna_Basher
    Edna_Basher Posts: 782 Forumite
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    edited 20 October 2016 at 9:06PM
    No, you just need to send the Newbies' template as it is written. If you try to tailor the wording, you may inadvertently reveal who was driving.

    Sometimes Smart cancel as soon as they see the MSE template letter.


    Edit: C-M beat me to it.
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 43,765 Forumite
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    Hayespcn wrote: »
    Do I need to tailor make this to suite my case? I went to the store and one of the managers said one of the machine which is the only one at front was not working. But I have no proof of that.

    Thanks.
    Email the manager and ask him to confirm your understanding of your conversation with him that the machine wasn't working. Keep that up your sleeve for later.

    Alternatively you could go into the store and ask him to put it in writing for you, but often they are too busy, or just plain reluctant to put 'pen to paper', hence you giving him the words in an email for him to confirm.

    Try these approaches, nothing to lose.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • Hayespcn
    Hayespcn Posts: 10 Forumite
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    Umkomaas wrote: »
    Email the manager and ask him to confirm your understanding of your conversation with him that the machine wasn't working. Keep that up your sleeve for later.

    Alternatively you could go into the store and ask him to put it in writing for you, but often they are too busy, or just plain reluctant to put 'pen to paper', hence you giving him the words in an email for him to confirm.

    Try these approaches, nothing to lose.

    Thanks. She told me that one of the machines was not working lately. She said it is worth to mention it but I didn't have her name or email. She just gave me an email address to appeal it.
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