Here's one for you all - enjoy

Glen_Clark

But I think the Brexit vote was as much to do with blaming immigrants for the shortage of housing. (although its more to do with restricting supply through the world's most onerous planning system) The poll results swung in favour of Brexit after George Osborne said Brexit would lead to a fall in house prices (and a rise in interest rates)
As usual Osborne called the market wrong, but when he was Chancellor some people must have believed him.

lesta1980

EdGasket wrote: »

Most Brexiters hadn't a clue what they were voting for.

yes we did, as did remainers, the vote was to leave the EU or not leave the EU

lesta1980

Graham_Devon wrote: »

It was never a promise. Infact it was never even stated as such.

It's one of the handful of completely twisted lie lines that has stuck since the result.

In fact to go even deeper with it time and time again Priti Patel was on various news reports etc stating that this bus was saying a gross figure that was sent to the EU and it COULD be spent funding the NHS, not that it would, but it doesn't make a good headline stating the truth

Herzlos

2010 wrote: »

They voted to get back control of the country by restoring power to our democratically elected parliment.

Power that it already had.

To stop sending £385 million a week for some bunch of unelected bureaucrats to waste on their idiotic projects.

Of which we only sent about half of that, and they sent a lot of that money back to us in the form of projects.

To get back control of our borders, so we decide who comes into the country.

Which we already had, and is likely to remain unchanged.

The brexiters knew exactly what they were voting for and won the referendum.

Except no-one knows what they voted for, it was too wide a question.

The remainers were great believers in democracy until they lost and have been crying ever since.

We lost by a rounding error, and still don't know what's happening.

I'd rather we didn't leave the EU, but we are, and I'm keen to make the most of it, but it's been a few months now and there's still no actual plan to do anything beyond make some sound bites. I've still no idea what to do in order to take advantage of any boom or protect myself from any bust.

lesta1980

Glen_Clark wrote: »

This was Boris Johnson photographed in Bristol 14.5.16 The same thing was on the side of the Brexit Bus. I don't happen to have a photo of that to hand but I am sure it could be found if you think this isn't enough....

'Lets fund our NHS instead'

not the same at all and never promises to spend £350m a week on the NHS

Herzlos

lesta1980 wrote: »

In fact to go even deeper with it time and time again Priti Patel was on various news reports etc stating that this bus was saying a gross figure that was sent to the EU and it COULD be spent funding the NHS, not that it would, but it doesn't make a good headline stating the truth

But that was never disclosed alongside the huge adverts - people only vote on what they see. So it was either a lie or it was grossly misleading?

But the fact that it was weaseled out of by 7am the morning after implies they knew it was complete bs.

Herzlos

lesta1980 wrote: »

'Lets fund our NHS instead'

not the same at all and never promises to spend £350m a week on the NHS

Sounds a lot like a promise to me.

"I was going to spend £100 on Elton John tickets"
"Lets go to the theatre instead and have a nice dinner too"
"Good idea, lets do that"
"Uh... it was only a suggestion. I didn't really mean it".

Sure, it's weasely enough to weasel out of, but you're talking about the distinction between having a conversation with a cynical lawyer and a trusting member of the population who would do almost anything to keep the NHS (bearing in mind that some voters remember what it was like when the NHS didn't exist).

I think the question is; did the voters genuinely believe that leaving the EU would fund the NHS? And the answer to that is yes, many of them did, and voted accordingly.

lesta1980

Herzlos wrote: »

Sounds a lot like a promise to me.

"I was going to spend £100 on Elton John tickets"
"Lets go to the theatre instead and have a nice dinner too"
"Good idea, lets do that"
"Uh... it was only a suggestion. I didn't really mean it".

Sure, it's weasely enough to weasel out of, but you're talking about the distinction between having a conversation with a cynical lawyer and a trusting member of the population who would do almost anything to keep the NHS (bearing in mind that some voters remember what it was like when the NHS didn't exist).

I think the question is; did the voters genuinely believe that leaving the EU would fund the NHS? And the answer to that is yes, many of them did, and voted accordingly.

It will go towards funding the EU, as it will to other projects as well. What happened to the emergency budget BTW that we would of had to have?

And as I said, Priti Patel, as others, said many times exactly what it meant, but you'll keep ignoring that

stator

People don't vote according to lies printed on posters.
Far too much credit is given to Boris Johnson and his cronies.

2010

There was only one question, remain or leave.
That`s what everyone voted on and made their own democratic decision on.

Despite all of Cameron,Osborne and Carney`s lies and negative,frightening tactics, each individual that voted had to decide,remain or leave.

They voted and in a democracy the majority wins,end of story.

Any remainers that don`t like the result can try their luck in N. Korea.