PCN issued for parking in my own allocated space (residential)

joocyglutes

Hi guys, I've had a read through the stickie but slightly confused as to what steps I need to take.

Firstly, I received the PCN today, stuck to my windscreen from a company called Elite Management (Midlands) Ltd.

The reason given on the notice: No permit.

I was parked in my own space, allocated to my apartment. I wasn't even aware we had to display a permit or how to obtain one. ( I wasn't even given the pin code to the bin area or apartment building itself when I moved in, and definitely wasn't made aware about permits)

Moving on, my car is a lease vehicle so I understand I cannot simply ignore the notice. Which appeal letter must I send and to whom?

Thanks

catfunt

Who have you leased your vehicle from? Hope it's not Arval!

The info you need is in the NEWBIES thread.

Also have a read of "hire vehicle" threads on this forum, they will give you all the info you need.

The_Deep

I take it that you are a tenant, what does your AST say about parking, exact words please? Have you mentioned this to your landlord?

peter_the_piper

Your space how? Was it allocated to you in the lease/deeds? Check the wording of the deeds/lease.

joocyglutes

Hi guys, thanks for your replies.

I have contacted my landlord who has confirmed the allocated space is included in the tenancy agreement.

What steps do I take next? (and the car is leased with SEAT for the person that asked lol)

The_Deep

What is the precise wording in the AST? It is important.

Coupon-mad

my car is a lease vehicle so I understand I cannot simply ignore the notice. Which appeal letter must I send and to whom?

Online if possible (check the PCN on the back) - appeal well within 28 days using the NEWBIES THREAD writing template for BPA members. That will stop them from being able to get the keeper's data from the DVLA and they;ll have to deal with you.

Call yourself the lessee/hirer of the vehicle, or 'keeper' (not registered keeper). No saying who was driving.

joocyglutes

The_Deep wrote: »

What is the precise wording in the AST? It is important.

-To park a private vehicle only at the premises
-To park in the car parking space, garage or driveway allocated to the Premises, if applicable.

Then a few other non relevant such as keeping the parking space free of oil etc.

I've spoken to the management who deal with the apartment building this morning and asked for my permit (which my girlfriend had asked for previously she says), and it is simply a permit which states it is for parking bay 62 (the one which I was parked in when I received the PCN)

Coupon-mad wrote: »

Online if possible (check the PCN on the back) - appeal well within 28 days using the NEWBIES THREAD writing template for BPA members. That will stop them from being able to get the keeper's data from the DVLA and they;ll have to deal with you.

Call yourself the lessee/hirer of the vehicle, or 'keeper' (not registered keeper). No saying who was driving.

Will send them an appeal email this morning. When I send this, do I follow the template in the newbie thread as I noticed the main point of appeal is the signs rather than the fact that I am entitled to park in the space?

Thanks for your help guys, really appreciate you taking your time to reply.

Fruitcake

joocyglutes wrote: »

-To park a private vehicle only at the premises
-To park in the car parking space, garage or driveway allocated to the Premises, if applicable.

Then a few other non relevant such as keeping the parking space free of oil etc.

I've spoken to the management who deal with the apartment building this morning and asked for my permit (which my girlfriend had asked for previously she says), and it is simply a permit which states it is for parking bay 62 (the one which I was parked in when I received the PCN)




Will send them an appeal email this morning. When I send this, do I follow the template in the newbie thread as I noticed the main point of appeal is the signs rather than the fact that I am entitled to park in the space?

Thanks for your help guys, really appreciate you taking your time to reply.

If there is nothing in your lease about needing a permit, why on earth have you asked for one? You are in effect saying that you agree the parking scammers have the right to demand money from you for parking in your own space.
You can hardly say your lease agreement trumps the parking company's made up rules, then say you want a permit.

Use the template exactly as it is in the NEWBIES thread. If you don't understand why, you need to read the NEWBIES a few more times. You will never take it all in at once.

joocyglutes

Fruitcake wrote: »

If there is nothing in your lease about needing a permit, why on earth have you asked for one? You are in effect saying that you agree the parking scammers have the right to demand money from you for parking in your own space.
You can hardly say your lease agreement trumps the parking company's made up rules, then say you want a permit.

Use the template exactly as it is in the NEWBIES thread. If you don't understand why, you need to read the NEWBIES a few more times. You will never take it all in at once.

Of course I do not agree with it and I think it's ridiculous that I would have to pay for parking in my own space; hence I came to the forum for help appealing.

But I also do not want to deal with more appeals. For me personally, it's easier to just display the permit in future, whether I agree with it or not.

Thanks again for your help though.

Fruitcake

joocyglutes wrote: »

Of course I do not agree with it and I think it's ridiculous that I would have to pay for parking in my own space; hence I came to the forum for help appealing.

But I also do not want to deal with more appeals. For me personally, it's easier to just display the permit in future, whether I agree with it or not.

Thanks again for your help though.

But by displaying the permit, your are tacitly agreeing to their terms and conditions, and therefore their right to charge you next time you or friends or family fail to display a permit.
You will never get rid of them that way and thus leave yourself open to ore abuse.

Of course it is entirely your decision, but I personally do not understand why you would want to deliberately weaken your own case and allow this to continue.