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I posted this in the wrong place to start with so apologise for that but didn't know how to move the post.

Please can somebody help me, I'm desperate and don't know where else to turn. I'm ashamed to be posting here, but after years of trying to deal with it realise that I can't do that without any help.

I'm spending around £600 a month more on loans (totalling £30k) than I earn and don't know how to change this. I earn £35 pa pre tax and have an overdraft of £4/5k, I took out a couple of loans to clear a credit card and bank debt I had (I know this was a bad thing) and after being out of work for six months the debt got out of hand. When I did get a new job the salary was less than before so keeping my head above board has become very difficult and I don't know where else to turn.

I'm happy to provide any information at all, please just let me know what information is needed.

I early await any help anybody has to offer.

Thank you
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  • National_Debtline
    National_Debtline Posts: 7,998 Organisation Representative
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    edited 28 September 2016 at 11:00AM
    Hi Jonesie

    Welcome to the forum.

    A good place to start is completing a statement of affairs to get an overview of your income and expenditure. If you complete the template through this link you can post your results here and I’m sure you’ll get suggestions of where you might be able to cut spending.

    www.stoozing.com/calculator/soa.php

    If there's still simply no way you can realistically afford the contractual minimum payments on your debts you might need to look into other options, which will depend on your circumstances. For example you might want to look into arranging reduced monthly payments and freezing interest, either by yourself or through a free debt management plan (DMP).

    If you contact one of the free debt advice charities you will be able to get full advice on your options based on your situation.

    James
    @natdebtline
    We work as money advisers for National Debtline and have specific permission from MSE to post to try to help those in debt. Read more information on National Debtline in MSE's Debt Problems: What to do and where to get help guide. If you find you're struggling with debt and need further help try our online advice tool My Money Steps
  • sourcrates
    sourcrates Posts: 31,481 Ambassador
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    Hi,

    If your overspending on credit repayments by £600 a month only one thing you can do, and that's to stop that right away and take stock of the situation.

    SOA is a good start, looks certain some kind of debt remedy will be nessessary.
    I’m a Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on the Debt free wannabe, Credit file and ratings, and Bankruptcy and living with it boards. If you need any help on these boards, do let me know. Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any posts you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button, or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com. All views are my own and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.For free non-judgemental debt advice, contact either Stepchange, National Debtline, or CitizensAdviceBureaux.Link to SOA Calculator- https://www.stoozing.com/soa.php The "provit letter" is here-https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2607247/letter-when-you-know-nothing-about-about-the-debt-aka-prove-it-letter
  • Thank you both for your help. I've filled out the SOA and here's the results:

    Statement of Affairs and Personal Balance Sheet

    Monthly Income Details

    Monthly income after tax................ 2247.39
    Partners monthly income after tax....... 0
    Benefits................................ 0
    Other income............................ 0
    Total monthly income.................... 2247.39


    Monthly Expense Details

    Mortgage................................ 882
    Secured/HP loan repayments.............. 0
    Rent.................................... 0
    Management charge (leasehold property).. 122.62
    Council tax............................. 120
    Electricity............................. 46
    Gas..................................... 0
    Oil..................................... 30
    Water rates............................. 14
    Telephone (land line)................... 50.67
    Mobile phone............................ 15.34
    TV Licence.............................. 12.12
    Satellite/Cable TV...................... 0
    Internet Services....................... 0
    Groceries etc. ......................... 260
    Clothing................................ 0
    Petrol/diesel........................... 80
    Road tax................................ 0
    Car Insurance........................... 0
    Car maintenance (including MOT)......... 0
    Car parking............................. 0
    Other travel............................ 0
    Childcare/nursery....................... 0
    Other child related expenses............ 0
    Medical (prescriptions, dentist etc).... 0
    Pet insurance/vet bills................. 0
    Buildings insurance..................... 10
    Contents insurance...................... 10
    Life assurance ......................... 0
    Other insurance......................... 32.29
    Presents (birthday, christmas etc)...... 0
    Haircuts................................ 0
    Entertainment........................... 0
    Holiday................................. 0
    Emergency fund.......................... 0
    Total monthly expenses.................. 1685.04



    Assets

    Cash.................................... 0
    House value (Gross)..................... 0
    Shares and bonds........................ 0
    Car(s).................................. 0
    Other assets............................ 0
    Total Assets............................ 0



    Secured & HP Debts

    Description....................Debt......Monthly...APR
    Mortgage...................... 160000...(882)......3.5
    Total secured & HP debts...... 160000....-.........-


    Unsecured Debts
    Description....................Debt......Monthly...APR
    Sainsburys.....................21000.....327.5.....7.9
    HSBC...........................11000.....219.......7.9
    HSBC...........................1000......37.15.....7.9
    VAG............................18878.....359.......0
    Total unsecured debts..........51878.....942.65....-



    Monthly Budget Summary

    Total monthly income.................... 2,247.39
    Expenses (including HP & secured debts). 1,685.04
    Available for debt repayments........... 562.35
    Monthly UNsecured debt repayments....... 942.65
    Amount short for making debt repayments. -380.3


    Personal Balance Sheet Summary
    Total assets (things you own)........... 0
    Total HP & Secured debt................. -160,000
    Total Unsecured debt.................... -51,878
    Net Assets.............................. -211,878


    Created using the SOA calculator at stoozing.com.
    Reproduced on Moneysavingexpert with permission, using other browser.
  • lazer-zxr
    lazer-zxr Posts: 453 Forumite
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    edited 28 September 2016 at 12:12PM
    Just to get the SOA correct, You should include your house value and car value in your assets section. Can you also add when your mortgage tie in expires, as there are better deals out there than 3.5% now.
    Also, to put this in perspective, can you advise how many adults in the household, and how many kids?
  • System
    System Posts: 178,339 Community Admin
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    Your house is crippling you, especially with the management fees. Can you downsize?
    This is a system account and does not represent a real person. To contact the Forum Team email forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com
  • Is this okay:

    Statement of Affairs and Personal Balance Sheet

    Household Information

    Number of adults in household........... 2
    Number of children in household.........
    Number of cars owned.................... 1

    Monthly Income Details

    Monthly income after tax................ 2247.39
    Partners monthly income after tax....... 0
    Benefits................................ 0
    Other income............................ 0
    Total monthly income.................... 2247.39


    Monthly Expense Details

    Mortgage................................ 882
    Secured/HP loan repayments.............. 0
    Rent.................................... 0
    Management charge (leasehold property).. 122.62
    Council tax............................. 120
    Electricity............................. 46
    Gas..................................... 0
    Oil..................................... 30
    Water rates............................. 14
    Telephone (land line)................... 50.67
    Mobile phone............................ 15.34
    TV Licence.............................. 12.12
    Satellite/Cable TV...................... 0
    Internet Services....................... 0
    Groceries etc. ......................... 260
    Clothing................................ 0
    Petrol/diesel........................... 80
    Road tax................................ 0
    Car Insurance........................... 0
    Car maintenance (including MOT)......... 0
    Car parking............................. 0
    Other travel............................ 0
    Childcare/nursery....................... 0
    Other child related expenses............ 0
    Medical (prescriptions, dentist etc).... 0
    Pet insurance/vet bills................. 0
    Buildings insurance..................... 10
    Contents insurance...................... 10
    Life assurance ......................... 0
    Other insurance......................... 32.29
    Presents (birthday, christmas etc)...... 0
    Haircuts................................ 0
    Entertainment........................... 0
    Holiday................................. 0
    Emergency fund.......................... 0
    Total monthly expenses.................. 1685.04



    Assets

    Cash.................................... 0
    House value (Gross)..................... 230000
    Shares and bonds........................ 0
    Car(s).................................. 0
    Other assets............................ 0
    Total Assets............................ 230000



    Secured & HP Debts

    Description....................Debt......Monthly...APR
    Mortgage...................... 160000...(882)......3.5
    Total secured & HP debts...... 160000....-.........-


    Unsecured Debts
    Description....................Debt......Monthly...APR
    Sainsburys.....................21000.....327.5.....7.9
    HSBC...........................11000.....219.......7.9
    HSBC...........................1000......37.15.....7.9
    Sofa...........................2100......43.75.....0
    VAG............................18878.....259.......0
    Total unsecured debts..........53978.....886.4.....-



    Monthly Budget Summary

    Total monthly income.................... 2,247.39
    Expenses (including HP & secured debts). 1,685.04
    Available for debt repayments........... 562.35
    Monthly UNsecured debt repayments....... 886.4
    Amount short for making debt repayments. -324.05


    Personal Balance Sheet Summary
    Total assets (things you own)........... 230,000
    Total HP & Secured debt................. -160,000
    Total Unsecured debt.................... -53,978
    Net Assets.............................. 16,022


    Created using the SOA calculator at .stoozing.com.
    Reproduced on Moneysavingexpert with permission, using other browser.


    The value of the house is £230,000 and the current mortgage tie expires in 2018, the car is worth £40k although approximately half of it is paid already but it's not in my name.

    There's one other adult, my partner, but they're not working at the moment and there's no children
  • Your house and car are expensive. A car can be liquidated more quickly, and if its worth £40k .... by not in your name, do you mean not yours to sell?
  • jonesie01
    jonesie01 Posts: 11 Forumite
    edited 28 September 2016 at 1:21PM
    lazer-zxr wrote: »
    Your house and car are expensive. A car can be liquidated more quickly, and if its worth £40k .... by not in your name, do you mean not yours to sell?

    If I can help it I'd rather not liquidate the car or house. The car isn't mine to sell and the house is jointly owned so again I can't do anything with it without getting permission.

    Is that the only option I have?
  • Any chance of partner getting some income or benefits if can't work?
    Any chance of getting a lodger if you have a spare room?
    You need more income!! And that is what I am trying to see if there is any chance of.
    Others will comment on SOA for you, I don't have the time now.


    And I know you said you felt ashamed, but don't be, the majority of people in the UK are in a pretty much the same boat as you with debts they can't manage right now!! You might get the odd comment on here from the disapproving dept, but on the whole we are a tame bunch!
  • jonesie01
    jonesie01 Posts: 11 Forumite
    edited 28 September 2016 at 1:21PM
    Your house is crippling you, especially with the management fees. Can you downsize?

    Unfortunately no, it's jointly owned but is a small one bedroom, one office place. When the time comes to change our mortgage it should come down a lot as we'll then be just over a 3rd of the way through
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