Adolescents fly you to Malta

GingerBob_3

fairy_lights wrote: »

The same reason that whenever there's a news story involving a teacher we get told how many years teaching experience they've had - it pads out the story.

And it also reinforces the point that experience counts.

Pollycat

GingerBob wrote: »

Pointless comments.


What has whether it's my business got to do with anything? I'm putting forward a point of view. If you disagree with it, then put an alternative argument. Okay then let's replace 'adolescent' with 'spotty faced youth not long out of nappies'. It's a bit of hyperbole - just in case you didn't know, so trot off and look up that one in the dictionary.

Then put your thread on the right board.
This has nothing to do with Overseas holiday and travel.
Trot off over to DT.

London50

GingerBob wrote: »

But why then, whenever there's an issue involving pilots do we get to hear how many flying hours they've had? According to your argument, this wouldn't be relevant.


Consider this - if the airliner that went missing over the Indian Ocean had a captain aged 26 and a first officer aged 19 there would have been an international outcry, citing total lack of experience as a possible cause.

Sorry but I do not agree, the age is irrelevant IMO the experience is the important factor. Two of the big losses over the last couple of years with aircraft crashing had pilots of {what you are terming} an adult age. One the pilot had a mental problem and as far as I know the aircraft that vanished no age was given so until {if ever} they find the recorders we will never know why.
Be it in any walk of life you have to except that the people doing the job have been trained to the correct level otherwise you w ill be spending most of your time quizzing people before you let them/go with them.
My doctor is mid/late 20's, most of the police in my area are IMO very young and bus/train drivers I see are not much more than mid 40's. I have to believe that they have the skills to do what they are paid/trained to do.
At the end of the day should I need to have medical procedures done on me I would not be checking on the age and skill I would just be happy that the person could if needed save my life.
When I fly I do not request the age/sex of the people in the cockpit and had the piece that you linked to in your post I very much doubt if any time you have flown you have thought about it either:)

Andypandyboy

You have to put your faith in their employers. If they believe they are fit for the role and trained to the required standard then that is good enough for me.

I have kids (and their friends) of that age, many of whom are in really responsible roles; doctors, lawyers, dentists, and yes, pilots and they all take that responsibility very seriously. They trained hard for the roles and are good at what they do.

They also play hard in terms of physical challenges such as Tough Mudders, Three Peaks challenges, endurance walking etc, so they are much fitter than the average 40 year old.

bap98189

GingerBob wrote: »

If you saw people of this age driving you on a coach you might not be best pleased - especially a 19 year old!! But is seems it's okay for them to take charge of a multi-million jet and hundreds of passengers (sorry - customers). Quite how someone age 26 has the life experience to be an airline captain is beyond me.

She started flying when she was 13 in the air cadets. On her 19th birthday she started training on airliners. She is hardly inexperienced - she has been flying large passenger jets for over 7 years. Yes she is the youngest qualified captain, but she started flying aeroplanes far younger than most pilots do.

tripled

She's been flying for 13 years, started commercial training 7 years ago and has been flying passenger jets for 5 years. Before becoming a captain she would have undertaken further training and tests.

Gingerbob, how much experiece does someone need to be a captain in your opinion?

Or if it is actally down to age, what do you think should be the minimum age to fly a passenger jet?

814man

Good wind up OP.

Age here is pretty irrelevant. I do recall an interesting issue from back when I was in the RAF. Serving at Aviano airbase in Italy during the Kosovo war we had a fighter pilot aged 20 who could taxi his multi million pound aircraft around the taxiway and take off to fly combat missions but was not allowed to drive the Corsa hire care we used to get pilots from their aircraft back to the briefing facility along the same taxiway due to age restrictions (must be over 21) enforced by Hertz.

GingerBob_3

814man wrote: »

Good wind up OP.

Age here is pretty irrelevant. I do recall an interesting issue from back when I was in the RAF. Serving at Aviano airbase in Italy during the Kosovo war we had a fighter pilot aged 20 who could taxi his multi million pound aircraft around the taxiway and take off to fly combat missions but was not allowed to drive the Corsa hire care we used to get pilots from their aircraft back to the briefing facility along the same taxiway due to age restrictions (must be over 21) enforced by Hertz.

So who's got it right, the RAF or Hertz?

tripled

GingerBob wrote: »

So who's got it right, the RAF or Hertz?

Younger car drivers are more likely to have car accidents. This is why you have such a rule (and a surcharge for under 25's). It's not feasable for Hertz to manage endless "special cases"

In aviation, this is not the case. On the contrary, younger pilots learn faster. According to the BGA, the average 31 year old trainee needs twice the instruction before reaching solo standard compared to a 21 year old. They are also often safer than older pilots with equivalent experience. Accident reports often feature low hours pilots and old pilots, but rarely "adolescent" pilots. In the RAF's case, they also want fearless and faster reacting pilots.

So, in answer to your question, both

photome

GingerBob wrote: »

So who's got it right, the RAF or Hertz?

Tripled asked you how many years experience you should have to become a captain, you chose to ignore.

Isn't 13 years enough?