Which fiat punto would you buy

burtons

I'm looking to buy a fiat punto but I'm not sure which one to buy so I'm looking for some advice.


2008 FIAT GRANDE PUNTO 1.2 ACTIVE 80k miles £1500




MOT history of this vehicle

• Test date 22 June 2016
• Expiry date 26 June 2017
• Test Result Pass
• Odometer reading 79,329 miles
• MOT test number 5778 7962 2809

• Test date 22 June 2015
• Expiry date 26 June 2016
• Test Result Pass
• Odometer reading 76,567 miles
• MOT test number 9354 5307 5106

• Test date 22 June 2015
• Test Result Fail
• Odometer reading 76,567 miles
• MOT test number 2375 3327 5188
• Reason(s) for failure
  Offside Upper Rear position lamp(s) not working (1.1.A.3b)
  
  

• Test date 24 June 2014
• Expiry date 26 June 2015
• Test Result Pass
• Odometer reading 71,689 miles
• MOT test number 5380 6577 4180
• Advisory notice item(s)
  Nearside Front Tyre worn close to the legal limit (4.1.E.1)
  Offside Front Tyre worn close to the legal limit (4.1.E.1)
  
  

• Test date 19 June 2014
• Test Result Fail
• Odometer reading 71,669 miles
• MOT test number 1180 4047 4168
• Reason(s) for failure
  Nearside Registration plate lamp not working (1.1.C.1d)
  Offside Registration plate lamp not working (1.1.C.1d)
  Nearside Front constant velocity joint gaiter deteriorated to the extent that it no longer prevents the ingress of dirt etc (2.5.C.1a)
  Exhaust emissions carbon monoxide content after 2nd fast idle excessive (7.3.D.3)
  Exhaust emissions carbon monoxide content at idle excessive (7.3.D.4)
  
  
• Advisory notice item(s)
  Front Brake pad(s) wearing thin (3.5.1g)
  Brake hydraulic reservoir fluid close to minimum level (3.6.G.1b)
  Nearside Front Tyre worn close to the legal limit (4.1.E.1)
  
  

• Test date 27 June 2013
• Expiry date 26 June 2014
• Test Result Pass
• Odometer reading 58,678 miles
• MOT test number 3271 7887 3152
• Advisory notice item(s)
  Nearside Rear Road wheel with a slightly distorted bead rim (4.2.A.1a)
  Offside Rear Road wheel with a slightly distorted bead rim (4.2.A.1a)
  Nearside Rear coil spring corroded (2.4.C.1b)
  Offside Rear coil spring corroded (2.4.C.1b)
  interior mirror missing other 2 present
  Child seat fitted not allowing full inspection of adult belt
  
  

• Test date 13 June 2013
• Test Result Fail
• Odometer reading 58,271 miles
• MOT test number 1750 8496 3144
• Reason(s) for failure
  Offside Registration plate lamp not working (1.1.C.1d)
  Offside Headlamp aim too high and too far to the right. (1.8)
  Nearside Front Headlamp aim beam image obviously incorrect (1.8.A.1b)
  Nearside Front Anti-roll bar linkage has excessive play in a ball joint (2.4.G.2)
  Offside Front Anti-roll bar linkage has excessive play in a ball joint (2.4.G.2)
  Offside Rear Tyre has a cut in excess of the requirements deep enough to reach the ply or cords (4.1.D.1a)
  Brake pedal anti-slip provision missing (3.3.A.1b)
  Offside rear parking brake recording little or no effort (3.7.B.6a)
  
  
• Advisory notice item(s)
  Nearside Rear Road wheel with a slightly distorted bead rim (4.2.A.1a)
  Offside Rear Road wheel with a slightly distorted bead rim (4.2.A.1a)
  Nearside Rear coil spring corroded (2.4.C.1b)
  Offside Rear coil spring corroded (2.4.C.1b)
  interior mirror missing other 2 present
  Child seat fitted not allowing full inspection of adult belt
  
  

• Test date 19 June 2012
• Expiry date 24 June 2013
• Test Result Pass
• Odometer reading 42,483 miles
• MOT test number 1788 7167 2177

• Test date 19 June 2012
• Test Result Fail
• Odometer reading 42,483 miles
• MOT test number 9954 4157 2127
• Reason(s) for failure
  Nearside Windscreen wiper does not clear the windscreen effectively (8.2.2)
  Offside Front Tyre tread depth below requirements of 1.6mm (4.1.E.1)
  Parking brake lever insecure (3.1.3b)
  brake: efficiency below requirements (3.7.B.7)
  

2007 FIAT GRANDE PUNTO 1.4 16v Dynamic Sport 60k miles £2250.


MOT history of this vehicle

• Test date 5 July 2016
• Expiry date 6 July 2017
• Test Result Pass
• Odometer reading 56,237 miles
• MOT test number 2762 7678 7527

• Test date 5 July 2016
• Test Result Fail
• Odometer reading 56,232 miles
• MOT test number 6744 3822 9966
• Reason(s) for failure
  offside rear passenger door cannot be opened from outside the vehicle (6.2.B.1c)
  
  

• Test date 7 July 2015
• Expiry date 6 July 2016
• Test Result Pass
• Odometer reading 51,141 miles
• MOT test number 5794 3818 5190
• Advisory notice item(s)
  rear silencer corrosion deteriorated
  
  

• Test date 7 July 2014
• Expiry date 6 July 2015
• Test Result Pass
• Odometer reading 45,311 miles
• MOT test number 1875 9858 4108
• Advisory notice item(s)
  Offside Headlamp deteriorated but light output not reduced (1.7.5a)
  front and rear exhaust outer skin corroded and seperated
  slight oil around engine
  
  

• Test date 7 July 2014
• Test Result Fail
• Odometer reading 45,311 miles
• MOT test number 6298 2808 4173
• Reason(s) for failure
  Offside Headlamp aim too low (1.8)
  Offside Front Direction indicators incorrect colour (1.4.A.2f)
  
  
• Advisory notice item(s)
  Offside Headlamp deteriorated but light output not reduced (1.7.5a)
  front and rear exhaust outer skin corroded and seperated
  slight oil around engine
  
  

• Test date 2 July 2013
• Expiry date 6 July 2014
• Test Result Pass
• Odometer reading 39,216 miles
• MOT test number 1683 4328 3123

• Test date 18 June 2012
• Expiry date 6 July 2013
• Test Result Pass
• Odometer reading 32,297 miles
• MOT test number 3072 9047 2107

• Test date 5 July 2011
• Expiry date 6 July 2012
• Test Result Pass
• Odometer reading 27,175 miles
• MOT test number 6166 8628 1183

• Test date 24 June 2010
• Expiry date 6 July 2011
• Test Result Pass
• Odometer reading 22,354 miles
• MOT test number 3635 5517 0199

• Test date 24 June 2010
• Test Result Fail
• Odometer reading 22,354 miles
• MOT test number 9337 2597 0177
• Reason(s) for failure
  Front Tyre tread depth below requirements of 1.6mm (4.1.E.1)
  Centre Front Upper Windscreen has a sticker or other obstruction encroaching by more than 10mm within zone 'A' (8.3.1b)
  
  
• Advisory notice item(s)
  Offside Front Tyre worn close to the legal limit (4.1.E.1)
  

Robisere

Neither. look for something like a Skoda Fabia.

worried_jim

Robisere wrote: »

Neither. look for something like a Skoda Fabia.

Excellent choice.

burtons

Robisere wrote: »

Neither. look for something like a Skoda Fabia.

The only skoda fabia around me is a 2005 1.2 HTP 12v Ambiente 5dr 83k miles £1800

mealmond

I have the same model of Fabia you have seen, really good car and much better built than the Fiat, I have owned Fiat's before and would not go back now I have owned the Fabia.

I would take it for a test drive and see what you think, not the quickest engine, but very reliable and easy to work on.

Also, have a look https://www.briskoda.com, great site for any information on Skoda's.


Martin

tacpot12

If you are still looking to buy one of these Puntos the first one sounds the better one. It has fewer and less serious faults. I too would expect a Fabia to be better, but only on average. You get good Puntos and bad Fabias.

burtons

tacpot12 wrote: »

If you are still looking to buy one of these Puntos the first one sounds the better one. It has fewer and less serious faults. I too would expect a Fabia to be better, but only on average. You get good Puntos and bad Fabias.

What would you say the serious faults are on the second car.

Mr.Generous

both Fiats are really easy to work on and very cheap to service, daughters have had both the 1.2 and the 1.4 GP, both proved to be very good buys 100% reliable unlike previous Renault / Citroen / Ford cars they owned.

tacpot12

Before I reply, I'll point out that I didn't say there were any serious faults with the second Punto, just that its faults were more serious than those on the first one.

The issues on the second car that I would be concerned about are:

- oil around the engine suggests an oil leak
- the corroding exhaust will cost a bit to fix if it has not been fixed
- the non-opening door will have been fixed, but what caused it? Accident Damage, Water Ingress?
- the deteriorated headlamp can be expensive if it gets bad enough to need replacing

The problem is that these MOT histories don't really confirm what has been repaired and what has not. MOT testing is still a bit variable, so just because an advisory isn't noted the following year, it doesn't mean that the item was repaired. For example, the distorted bead rims on the first Punto could have been fixed by replacing the wheels or just that the MOT station didn't notice them next time around. I'd expect they are still there and might indicate a high speed mounting of the kerb, I would check to see if the rims are damaged. I missed that particular point on my first review. I'm having second thoughts about the first Punto now.

teddysmum

My Mark 1 Punto ELX is over 20 years old and still running well. It has cost hardly anything in all this time, beyond, brake and tyre replacements.


We also have a Mark3 Sporting which I like to drive, but I don't like the Grande models and find that they are rather cheapie , compared to earlier models.

EdGasket

You could take a Punt on any of them or buy a decent car instead (anything Japanese or Korean)