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£40K purchase - sanity check!

nc11
nc11 Posts: 41 Forumite
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I'm looking for a nice exec to serve me during the next 12 months (at least). A new contract with a long motorway journey is the main reason. I'll be doing up to 18k miles.

What I'm not sure of is how to structure a deal so I'm not in negative equity should I lease, and then after a year (if contract is not extended) have to get rid of the car.

Have got the following dealer offer at present:-

OTR price - £40,000
deposit - £2500
dealer contribution - £5500
Finance - £32000 @ 24x£620pm with a £20000 baloon

Now the way I look at this deal is that I'll be paying £10000 (2500 deposit plus 7500 (620x12)) after 12 months.

Based on parkers, the car will be worth around £30000 sold privately (based on a 65 plate guide price) after a year, so I'll have to pay 24500 to settle the finance, and still have 5500 'equity' after selling the car. So effectively I've "hired" the car for £4500 through 12 months (or 375 pm).

Am I missing something? looks like a great deal on paper! Obviously there's no guarantee on future value, so is parkers price a good indicative guide to use?

Would appreciate your input! as they say - if it's too good to be true, it probably isn't...;)

Cheers,

NC11

Comments

  • angrycrow
    angrycrow Posts: 1,097 Forumite
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    I’m not an expert on car finance or leasing as I always buy older cars outright and self-maintain them resulting in annual running costs of around £1000 including depreciation, repairs and servicing but excluding fuel. However this does not work for all as some peoples job requires them to show a certain image.

    I cant make your figures work. If you put down the £2500 deposit and the dealer puts in £5500 with the payments stated your total cost is £37380 after dealer contribution. If you pay 12 months at £620 you still owe £27440. You state you could sell the car privately for £30000. It is extremely unlikely you could sell a 1 year old car privately so most likely it would have to go to trade. Not knowing what the car is it is difficult to predict the trade price but probably £1000 to £1500 less than private sale price, say £28500 leaving you just over £1000 back from the sale of the car. Total cost over the 12 months £8880 or £740 a month.
  • loskie
    loskie Posts: 1,761 Forumite
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    edited 11 September 2016 at 7:59AM
    just take out a 12 to 18m lease. look at the leasing thread on pistonheads. your costs sound ridiculous.
    18000m is not a lot per annum you could possibly lease something decent for about £6k

    http://www.whatcar.com/car-leasing/car-leasing-guide/
  • AdrianC
    AdrianC Posts: 42,189 Forumite
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    This looks familiar from another place...
    http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&t=1620452
  • nc11
    nc11 Posts: 41 Forumite
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    Yes - I've started the same thread in PH... Looks like I did the right thing to question the logic which seemed good 'on paper'!

    Leasing does appear to be the way to go and I'll pursue it tomorrow.

    Cheers,

    NC
  • neilmcl
    neilmcl Posts: 19,460 Forumite
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    nc11 wrote: »
    I'm looking for a nice exec to serve me during the next 12 months (at least). A new contract with a long motorway journey is the main reason. I'll be doing up to 18k miles.

    What I'm not sure of is how to structure a deal so I'm not in negative equity should I lease, and then after a year (if contract is not extended) have to get rid of the car.
    Except you're not looking at a lease, you're looking at a PCP deal. If you're only want a car for 12 months then go ahead and take out a proper lease (personal contract hire), it'll likely be cheaper in the long run.
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