We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING: Hello Forumites! In order to help keep the Forum a useful, safe and friendly place for our users, discussions around non-MoneySaving matters are not permitted per the Forum rules. While we understand that mentioning house prices may sometimes be relevant to a user's specific MoneySaving situation, we ask that you please avoid veering into broad, general debates about the market, the economy and politics, as these can unfortunately lead to abusive or hateful behaviour. Threads that are found to have derailed into wider discussions may be removed. Users who repeatedly disregard this may have their Forum account banned. Please also avoid posting personally identifiable information, including links to your own online property listing which may reveal your address. Thank you for your understanding.
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

FTB and offers over system (Scotland)

Hi all, hoping someone can advise.
I am a first time buyer and have seen a house that I love and want to put an offer in. It's on the market for offers over £200000 and valued on the home report at £210000.
Having spoken to the sellers they say they will sell at the home report value however I don't want to pay that much for it. Do you think it would be cheeky to offer £203 as that is as high as I can afford?
I'm unsure of the process and as to whether most people just offer what it has been valued at.
I am at an advantage in that I am not in a chain and have a large deposit. The sellers also said they have seen somewhere that they want to buy but can't start the process until there is an offer for their own.
Thanks for your help.
«1

Comments

  • AFF8879
    AFF8879 Posts: 656 Forumite
    Ninth Anniversary 500 Posts Name Dropper
    Doesn't hurt to offer it, it's hardly an offensive offer so if they reject it you can always up it. Sounds like the ball would be in your court anyway if they're keen for a quick move.
  • davidmcn
    davidmcn Posts: 23,596 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    Depends on the local market - your solicitor should be able to give you some guidance (you do have a solicitor, don't you? If not - go get one now!). It would be odd to offer any more than the HR valuation unless it's a property which would be expected to go to a closing date, so certainly start under. Consider how long it's been on the market (you haven't told us) and what's happened with similar properties.
  • Thanks for your advice so far.
    I'm arranging a solicitor tomorrow (didn't expect to find somewhere so soon) so hopefully they'll be able to help further.
    The property has only been for sale for around 2weeks and from what I can see there are no similar ones that have sold recently (relatively new builds -7 years). My main worry is that I don't want the sellers to think I'm being cheeky when I offer 7000 below what they said they'll sell for however realistically I can't offer what they want.
    House buying is stressful!
  • agrinnall
    agrinnall Posts: 23,344 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    My main worry is that I don't want the sellers to think I'm being cheeky when I offer 7000 below what they said they'll sell for however realistically I can't offer what they want.

    I can't see that you have anything to worry about, either they accept your offer or they don't, you can't increase it so if they do think it's a cheeky offer and they reject it you'll never have any dealings with them again anyway so what does it matter what they think?
  • Pixie5740
    Pixie5740 Posts: 14,515 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Eighth Anniversary Name Dropper Photogenic
    Get a solicitor and take his/her advice. You'll need a solicitor to put in a proper offer anyway. The fact that you don't have a property to sell first doesn't make that much difference in Scotland as the buying & selling process is far more swift in Scotland.
  • If you'd asked me 6 months ago (in Glasgow anyway) I would have said everyone is looking for home report value, and in some areas (not even great areas either) you wouldn't have a chance without going substantially over home report. However, we put a house search on hold for a few months and diving back into it recently we seem to have found a different playing field (or just several coincidences.)

    To my eyes anyway, some estate agents seem to be picking crazy valuation figures out the air and using surveyors that they know will agree with them. But I'm beginning to wonder if people don't have the stomach for these asking prices that they did before the Brexit vote (or maybe just some other reason), but no ones told the estate agents. There seems to be more and more properties sitting unsold for months that would have been snapped up in weeks not long ago, and quite a few dropping of offers over prices too.

    So in answer to your question, I would submit your 203 offer and see what happens. Although as davidmcn said (and you seem to be doing) - a chat with your solicitor could be helpful too.
    That being said, if it were my house and it had only been on sale for 2 weeks, i may be inclined to keep it on longer to see if i got closer to home report.

    At least the gap between offers over and home report in your instance isn't too wide. I've seen house where the o/o is £70,000 below home report and the vendors are obviously expecting a figure over HR. Clearly EA's trying to get people through the door, but wasting both parties time in some cases.
  • googler
    googler Posts: 16,103 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    The level of your offer may also depend on the level of interest in the property. You or your sol should be able to find this from the selling agent, and your sol should advise how this will influence your offer.

    Lots of interest tends to equate to 'offer higher' in competition with others.
    Little interest suggests offer lower.
  • Gunther_Golf
    Gunther_Golf Posts: 65 Forumite
    edited 8 September 2016 at 11:26AM
    Anna

    The ball is 100% in your court. The vast majority of properties i am keeping my eye on (East End of Glasgow/North Lan/South Lan) are on the market "offers over" £5k-£10k under Home Report. If the sellers are content to accept the Home Report value i dont see why they would have went down any other road than a Fixed Price.

    £203k is a perfectly reasonable offer on a property advertised at £200k at the present moment.
  • Thanks everyone. I've appointed a solicitor today and she is going to look over the home report and area and advise what to offer. Just hoping someone doesn't get in there first as it's a lovely house in a very popular area.

    She said not to get emotionally attached but it's easier said than done!
  • Anna

    You sound like my other half. We are FTB too and she is under the impression it's like buying a pair of shoes on ebay - Click ohhh i like that one let's buy it! Simmer down woman! :D

    Hope all works out for you
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 352.1K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253.6K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 454.2K Spending & Discounts
  • 245.1K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 600.7K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 177.5K Life & Family
  • 258.9K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.1K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.6K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.