BW Legal and Excel; £54 'legal charge' justifiable ?

beamerguy

yotmon wrote: »

If need be, I'll ask my daughter to scan it in - at least it then shows what the actual horse said.

Yes please Yotman we would like to see it

Umkomaas

Let's not take this thread off track. We need to keep the OP focused on his/her dealing with BWL.

Perhaps yotmon can post the letter on his own thread, but it's more than likely one seen before, given yotmon's description - do you have some reason to want to see it BG?

beamerguy

Umkomaas wrote: »

Let's not take this thread off track. We need to keep the OP focused on his/her dealing with BWL.

Perhaps yotmon can post the letter on his own thread, but it's more than likely one seen before, given yotmon's description - do you have some reason to want to see it BG?

I have not seen anywhere a reply from BWLegal that says
" We note your comments regarding our requests in our initial letter of the 1st august 2016 requesting you make contact or pay within 10 days, please note that our initial letter is a pre legal letter and not a letter before action"

As i don't use peppipoo, maybe it's there, please point me

Umkomaas

As i don't use peppipoo, maybe it's there, please point me

http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?act=Search

Lynda_Eagan

While helping someone respond to a BW Legal Letter of Claim I have witnessed a reply that said they have not yet send a Letter before Action. The response to the Letter of Claim used words like:-
"You Letter of Claim is deplorably inadequate. I would appear to be a very standard pre formatted template into which you have inserted the minimum of detail relating to the PCN. You have NOT complied with Practice Direction Pre-Action Conduct and Protocols paragraph 6a “The letter should include the basis on which the claim is made, a summary of the facts”. A scant half line description and location is insufficient. " and much more along the same lines pointing out it's non compliance with Practice Direction.
The reply was quite amazing as it twice mentioned that they had not yet issued a Letter before Action. (As a new user I can't post an image)
SO, the real questions is. Are all the thousands of County Court Claims issued by BW Legal not compliant with civil procedures because they were preceded by a non compliant Letter of Claim and not a LBA?

Coupon-mad

Nope, they can call it a LBC or LBCCC or LBA or a 'Letter of Claim'. As long as it conveys that it is a letter preceding a claim/action! The response was pretty good:

"You Letter of Claim is deplorably inadequate. I would appear to be a very standard pre formatted template into which you have inserted the minimum of detail relating to the PCN. You have NOT complied with Practice Direction Pre-Action Conduct and Protocols paragraph 6a “The letter should include the basis on which the claim is made, a summary of the facts”. A scant half line description and location is insufficient. "

But forget the name of the letter, that's a red herring.

beamerguy

Lynda_Eagan wrote: »

While helping someone respond to a BW Legal Letter of Claim I have witnessed a reply that said they have not yet send a Letter before Action. The response to the Letter of Claim used words like:-
"You Letter of Claim is deplorably inadequate. I would appear to be a very standard pre formatted template into which you have inserted the minimum of detail relating to the PCN. You have NOT complied with Practice Direction Pre-Action Conduct and Protocols paragraph 6a “The letter should include the basis on which the claim is made, a summary of the facts”. A scant half line description and location is insufficient. " and much more along the same lines pointing out it's non compliance with Practice Direction.
The reply was quite amazing as it twice mentioned that they had not yet issued a Letter before Action. (As a new user I can't post an image)
SO, the real questions is. Are all the thousands of County Court Claims issued by BW Legal not compliant with civil procedures because they were preceded by a non compliant Letter of Claim and not a LBA?

It is fast becoming clear that the BWLegal mass posting is a misrepresentation and they are debt collectors ..... they are giving the impression and giving a false or misleading account

Such information must be passed to the SRA

Solicitors Regulation Authority

Mr Paul Philip Chief Executive

Email paul.philip@sra.org.uk

JJ7516

Hi All

My updated position is that I firstly received a letter from BW Legal acknowledging receipt of my response to their "Letters of Claim" including the most recent offering a discount (in which I dispute the claim and stated that my position was final), indicating that its contents have been duly noted and informing me that their client "will instruct us to issue county court proceedings" if a settlement is not reached. It finally urged contact by telephone to discuss payment. I did not respond.

12 days later they sent a further "Letter of Claim" in which it states that they have received no response to their letter offering a discount and otherwise in the usual terms.

As I understand the position in law, the limitation period for commencing proceedings expires 6 years after the alleged contravention, which was 25/10/10, so has expired.

Today I received a letter dated 24/10/16 again entitled "Letter of Claim" and in the usual threatening terms and advising payment by 10/11/16 "to prevent legal action being taken". I also had a missed call from them on my mobile.

I know it will not stop the letters, but am I right that they cannot now commence proceedings.

Should I respond at this stage and tell them to stop?

Many thanks in advance.

pappa_golf

JJ7516 wrote: »

Hi All

My updated position is that I firstly received a letter from BW Legal acknowledging receipt of my response to their "Letters of Claim" including the most recent offering a discount (in which I dispute the claim and stated that my position was final), indicating that its contents have been duly noted and informing me that their client "will instruct us to issue county court proceedings" if a settlement is not reached. It finally urged contact by telephone to discuss payment. I did not respond.

12 days later they sent a further "Letter of Claim" in which it states that they have received no response to their letter offering a discount and otherwise in the usual terms.

As I understand the position in law, the limitation period for commencing proceedings expires 6 years after the alleged contravention, which was 25/10/10, so has expired.

Today I received a letter dated 24/10/16 again entitled "Letter of Claim" and in the usual threatening terms and advising payment by 10/11/16 "to prevent legal action being taken". I also had a missed call from them on my mobile.

I know it will not stop the letters, but am I right that they cannot now commence proceedings.

Should I respond at this stage and tell them to stop?

Many thanks in advance.

the limitation period for commencing proceedings expires 6 years after the alleged contravention, which was 25/10/10, so has expired. correct

advising payment by 10/11/16 "to prevent legal action being taken" , should be interesting

Should I respond at this stage and tell them to stop? , no let them continue , when they make a claim (court claim) you can fire in to the SRA


although the cut off point is 6 yrs for court action , companies can still "beg" for money , however a solicitor threatening you with LEGAL (as in court action) would be frowned on by the SRA






do not contact BW , let them drop themselves in it

beamerguy

There is a serious problem with BWLegal, they simply don't know what they are doing ?

For the purpose of court action ... IT HAS TIMED OUT.

They can still send you begging letters and waste their own time.

When will the SRA boot out this disgusting BWLegal shower