Twelve good reasons to out my former boss:

bugslet

daytona0 wrote: »

Well it *can* be gross misconduct...

If, for example, you are an engineer at Alton Towers then you would be sacked on the spot if you fail to carry out a vehicle check. Maybe the same is true if you transport people or high risk/expensive goods?

Would be a bit harsh if you were, for example, driving for the likes of myhermes or parcelforce or the post office but if its there in the handbook then you should do it. End of the day but by not checking you put the business at risk as you could break down and cost money.

Any beef you had with ANY of the above should have been addressed at an employment tribunal. As you haven't, you shouldn't dwell on it.

It's actually part of the Operators License requirements that a daily vehicle check is performed. If the odd one went astray it's not the end of the world to DVSA, but If it was a regular occurrence, then it would affect your license potentially.

Personally I wouldn't like to try for gross misconduct on one incidence of failing to complete a defect report, makes me think there us more to this.

sangie595

One reasons to pack it in:
1) Whatever it is that you think other people will care about, they won't. As far as they are concerned you will be an incompetent, vengeful former employee with mental problems. If anyone is damaged by your actions, it will only be you.

motorguy

headsgone wrote: »

1 Wrongful dismissal after 13 years with a clean disciplinary record.
2 I was sacked without warning via a second-class letter.
3 He failed to invite me to discuss the matter first, as required by employment law.
4 The dismissal notice falsely claimed that failing to do a vehicle check before a journey was gross misconduct.
5 It did not mention that I could appeal his decision, as recommended by ACAS.
6 I first learned of my sacking from a co-worker who thought I already knew.
7 After informing him in writing of my rights he offered "reinstatement" as a casual – I was a full-time truck/van driver.
8 Via ACAS I tried to end the dispute on good terms: minimum compensation and an apology. He paid only as a “gesture of goodwill” with no apology.
9 In spring 2016 he and a manager gave the runaround to a company phoning for a reference on my behalf: 9 calls in 5 weeks, always unavailable.
10 In June 2016, two years after my sacking, I reminded him of my need for an apology and a reference to help me find a job. No response.
11 Since June 2014 I’ve been forced to prematurely live off my life savings and pension pot.
12 He now advertises Friendship Force International on his courier vans as he and his wife are award-winning globe-trotting members.

If you were me what would you do now?

Twelve "good" reasons, yet none of them strong enough to either allow you to :-

(a) use your real MSE ID, not one you created just to have this whinge
(b) actually name him in the thread?

After two years, as per other posts - get over it and MOVE ON.

dawyldthing

Agency work in manufacturing etc don't always need references. They will ask for two, but they don't always follow them up as ive been recruited and started following day

motorguy

headsgone wrote: »

1 Wrongful dismissal after 13 years with a clean disciplinary record.
2 I was sacked without warning via a second-class letter.
3 He failed to invite me to discuss the matter first, as required by employment law.
4 The dismissal notice falsely claimed that failing to do a vehicle check before a journey was gross misconduct.
5 It did not mention that I could appeal his decision, as recommended by ACAS.
6 I first learned of my sacking from a co-worker who thought I already knew.
7 After informing him in writing of my rights he offered "reinstatement" as a casual – I was a full-time truck/van driver.
8 Via ACAS I tried to end the dispute on good terms: minimum compensation and an apology. He paid only as a “gesture of goodwill” with no apology.
9 In spring 2016 he and a manager gave the runaround to a company phoning for a reference on my behalf: 9 calls in 5 weeks, always unavailable.
10 In June 2016, two years after my sacking, I reminded him of my need for an apology and a reference to help me find a job. No response.
11 Since June 2014 I’ve been forced to prematurely live off my life savings and pension pot.
12 He now advertises Friendship Force International on his courier vans as he and his wife are award-winning globe-trotting members.

If you were me what would you do now?

Two years on, you dont "need" a reference from him to get another job. Your problem here is YOU, not the situation from your past. Get over it and move on

daytona0

sangie595 wrote: »

One reasons to pack it in:
1) Whatever it is that you think other people will care about, they won't. As far as they are concerned you will be an incompetent, vengeful former employee with mental problems. If anyone is damaged by your actions, it will only be you.

Bloody hell! You just went from zero to heavy there :eek:

Perma ban for me if I said anything even remotely like that :

tykesi

Seems the OP's username is very appropriate...

sangie595

daytona0 wrote: »

Bloody hell! You just went from zero to heavy there :eek:

Perma ban for me if I said anything even remotely like that :

Sorry, but it's simply the truth. Just imagine some former employee "outed" you two years later to your friends / colleagues. Are you going to say "Fair cop I should really apologise"? Or "This guy is a complete nutcase. I sacked him for gross misconduct two years ago, and ever since he's been harassing me and badmouthing me to anyone who will listen. He's a complete lunatic, seems to not haver the ability to move on. And he wants me to write him a reference after all this? The guy needs locking up". At which point you will all adjourn for a laugh and a drink. Because they are all going to see that, even if they have a sneaking sympathy for someone who gets sacked (rightly or wrongly), being obsessed by it two years later really isn't normal.

And that is assuming that whatever is said isn't actionable in court, and the former employer decides that enough is enough and takes such action; or reports them to the police for harassment.

I'm sorry for the OP, but they aren't asking for advice on how to put this behind them and find a new job. They are still blaming their former employer two years on, rehearsing the details of old news and trying to plot some form of revenge. Until they realise that there isn't going to be any revenge, and that anything they do will be more harmful to themselves than to their long past employer, then they won't move on. At this stage, in the big scheme of things, it really does not matter whether the dismissal was fair or unfair, whether it was harsh or not. It's history - or should be. The OP is doing themselves no favours by hanging on to it. And that, in itself, may provide more of an explanation for their continuing inability to get a job than anything.

Malthusian

The fact that at least two years after he's been sacked he's stalking the boss in question to the extent he knows the name of his penpal club and the fact that he's won some kind of award immediately elevates this to a psychiatric issue and not an employment issue.

What a waste of time. I'm referring to the OP's, not ours.

Spendless

bugslet wrote: »

It's actually part of the Operators License requirements that a daily vehicle check is performed. If the odd one went astray it's not the end of the world to DVSA, but If it was a regular occurrence, then it would affect your license potentially.

Personally I wouldn't like to try for gross misconduct on one incidence of failing to complete a defect report, makes me think there us more to this.

Agreed. I'm a Transport Administrator. Not handing the paperwork in, would have us asking the driver where he'd put it.

Not completing the paperwork might be different, especially if it happens more than once. The OP says 'not doing a vehicle check' which I've taken to mean he didn't check it at all which after years as a driver he should have known better. I wonder if the unchecked vehicle was involved in some incident?

I'm surprised the OP hasn't tried agency driving. Both transport firms I've worked for use them on a regular basis.