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Twelve good reasons to out my former boss:

1 Wrongful dismissal after 13 years with a clean disciplinary record.
2 I was sacked without warning via a second-class letter.
3 He failed to invite me to discuss the matter first, as required by employment law.
4 The dismissal notice falsely claimed that failing to do a vehicle check before a journey was gross misconduct.
5 It did not mention that I could appeal his decision, as recommended by ACAS.
6 I first learned of my sacking from a co-worker who thought I already knew.
7 After informing him in writing of my rights he offered "reinstatement" as a casual – I was a full-time truck/van driver.
8 Via ACAS I tried to end the dispute on good terms: minimum compensation and an apology. He paid only as a “gesture of goodwill” with no apology.
9 In spring 2016 he and a manager gave the runaround to a company phoning for a reference on my behalf: 9 calls in 5 weeks, always unavailable.
10 In June 2016, two years after my sacking, I reminded him of my need for an apology and a reference to help me find a job. No response.
11 Since June 2014 I’ve been forced to prematurely live off my life savings and pension pot.
12 He now advertises Friendship Force International on his courier vans as he and his wife are award-winning globe-trotting members.

If you were me what would you do now?
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  • If I'm reading this right, 2 or more years ago (since that is when you have had to live off savings) you were unfairly sacked. You got compensation and were offered a job (which you didn't take?). Correct?

    You can't force anyone to give you a reference. You can't force someone to apologise either. It's been a long time and you've been compensated.

    How are you planning to "out" your boss and what do you intend to achieve? Especially if you have no proof, you may find yourself with more issues.

    Sounds like you'd do best moving on and use someone else as a reference.
  • Undervalued
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    edited 1 September 2016 at 2:53PM
    headsgone wrote: »
    1 Wrongful dismissal after 13 years with a clean disciplinary record.
    2 I was sacked without warning via a second-class letter.
    3 He failed to invite me to discuss the matter first, as required by employment law.
    4 The dismissal notice falsely claimed that failing to do a vehicle check before a journey was gross misconduct.
    5 It did not mention that I could appeal his decision, as recommended by ACAS.
    6 I first learned of my sacking from a co-worker who thought I already knew.
    7 After informing him in writing of my rights he offered "reinstatement" as a casual – I was a full-time truck/van driver.
    8 Via ACAS I tried to end the dispute on good terms: minimum compensation and an apology. He paid only as a “gesture of goodwill” with no apology.
    9 In spring 2016 he and a manager gave the runaround to a company phoning for a reference on my behalf: 9 calls in 5 weeks, always unavailable.
    10 In June 2016, two years after my sacking, I reminded him of my need for an apology and a reference to help me find a job. No response.
    11 Since June 2014 I’ve been forced to prematurely live off my life savings and pension pot.
    12 He now advertises Friendship Force International on his courier vans as he and his wife are award-winning globe-trotting members.

    If you were me what would you do now?


    Move on!!!

    As said above you cannot force somebody to give you a reference. Even an employment tribunal can't do that.

    You MAY have had grounds to take the company to an employment tribunal and you MIGHT have got some compensation. However there was, and still is, a strict three month time limit so you are well out of time.

    As you say, recommended by ACAS. There are no longer statutory procedures so simply failing to follow the ACAS guidelines does not, in itself, make a dismissal unfair. Those days have long gone.

    Obviously you can say or publish what you like but you risk being on the wrong end of a legal claim if anything you say is factually untrue. Note also it would be up to you to prove what you say is true to defend such a claim, not the other way round!

    Had you gone to a tribunal and had you won you could obviously have published that as it would be a matter of fact. Whether that would have helped your future employment prospect is quite another matter.

    Seriously, move on!
  • lincroft1710
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    headsgone wrote: »
    1 Wrongful dismissal after 13 years with a clean disciplinary record.
    2 I was sacked without warning via a second-class letter.
    3 He failed to invite me to discuss the matter first, as required by employment law.
    4 The dismissal notice falsely claimed that failing to do a vehicle check before a journey was gross misconduct.
    5 It did not mention that I could appeal his decision, as recommended by ACAS.
    6 I first learned of my sacking from a co-worker who thought I already knew.
    7 After informing him in writing of my rights he offered "reinstatement" as a casual – I was a full-time truck/van driver.
    8 Via ACAS I tried to end the dispute on good terms: minimum compensation and an apology. He paid only as a “gesture of goodwill” with no apology.
    9 In spring 2016 he and a manager gave the runaround to a company phoning for a reference on my behalf: 9 calls in 5 weeks, always unavailable.
    10 In June 2016, two years after my sacking, I reminded him of my need for an apology and a reference to help me find a job. No response.
    11 Since June 2014 I’ve been forced to prematurely live off my life savings and pension pot.
    12 He now advertises Friendship Force International on his courier vans as he and his wife are award-winning globe-trotting members.

    If you were me what would you do now?

    Get on with my life and keep looking for a new job. You're well past the time limits for applying to an employment tribunal. An apology means absolutely nothing and the company cannot be forced to offer one. Similarly it cannot be forced to supply a reference.
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  • TELLIT01
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    I'll say the same thing. It's 2 years after the event - move on. What would be the value of an apology when it's very obvious that it would be done without any sincerity or meaning?
  • It might not be your ideal job but there's plenty of self employed courier work about. Got to be better than living off your savings?
  • But what proof do you have that he's gay? He could sue you if you run around making those kind of allegations.
  • TELLIT01
    TELLIT01 Posts: 18,249 Forumite
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    But what proof do you have that he's gay?

    Have I missed something? I don't see any reference to that.
  • Tigsteroonie
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    I think because the thread title is 'out my former boss', a term most commonly used when declaring somebody's sexual orientation.
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  • daytona0
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    headsgone wrote: »
    4 The dismissal notice falsely claimed that failing to do a vehicle check before a journey was gross misconduct.

    Well it *can* be gross misconduct...

    If, for example, you are an engineer at Alton Towers then you would be sacked on the spot if you fail to carry out a vehicle check. Maybe the same is true if you transport people or high risk/expensive goods?

    Would be a bit harsh if you were, for example, driving for the likes of myhermes or parcelforce or the post office but if its there in the handbook then you should do it. End of the day but by not checking you put the business at risk as you could break down and cost money.

    Any beef you had with ANY of the above should have been addressed at an employment tribunal. As you haven't, you shouldn't dwell on it.
  • paddedjohn
    paddedjohn Posts: 7,512 Forumite
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    There's a nationwide shortage of drivers, if you are as good as you think you are you would be working and earning right now.
    Be Alert..........Britain needs lerts.
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