any ideas on a potential layout change?

silvercar

I'd get rid of the side door. Put the bath so the feet end are under the stairs, put the sink where the foot end of the bath is.

That leaves you a much bigger kitchen.

mije1983

If you can move it upstairs like in your plan above you could then make the kitchen bigger, which I think personally is a better fit. Then if you move the door, that small area at the top of the stairs could become part of the bedroom like a walk in wardrobe or something. It still leaves you with 2 double bedrooms plus a larger kitchen/diner area.

Each to their own though. A bathroom in the kitchen would put me off (and has before), and I'm sure I'm not the only one, but as you say there are people out there that won't mind.

drummer_666

silvercar wrote: »

I'd get rid of the side door. Put the bath so the feet end are under the stairs, put the sink where the foot end of the bath is.

That leaves you a much bigger kitchen.

Getting rid of the side door is the best option, but its where to put the new door. So in the end the useable space of the kitchen is no bigger (but its an ok size as it is), but it uses the space for the bathroom better.

mije1983 wrote: »

If you can move it upstairs like in your plan above you could then make the kitchen bigger, which I think personally is a better fit. Then if you move the door, that small area at the top of the stairs could become part of the bedroom like a walk in wardrobe or something. It still leaves you with 2 double bedrooms plus a larger kitchen/diner area.
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I kind of like the plan with the bathroom upstairs, because as you mentioned I could have a kitchen/diner.



They would both be double bedrooms, but quite small doubles.
I don't think there's any point in moving the door, but that room could still be used as the wardrobe - because of the orientation and where the rail would go, it'd be better access keeping the door where it is.

As it's a corner semi, I don't see why the waste pipes couldn't go straight out of the wall from where I've positioned the wc on the mockup.

I'd have a 3.29 x 2.9m and 2.94 x 3m bedroom
Plus 1.95 x 1.4m bathroom - which is small but would you say adequate?

Thanks for all the comments by the way

zagubov

Can you please clear something up? I got the wrong end of the stick and assumed it was a cluster house with the entrance into the small corridor leading into the kitchen and with the bathroom and living room coming off these.

Silvercar's right to suggest that the bath could go under the stairs. Putting a bath upstairs as an en-suite's a bit awkward.

Doozergirl

drummer_666 wrote: »

Getting rid of the side door is the best option, but its where to put the new door. So in the end the useable space of the kitchen is no bigger (but its an ok size as it is), but it uses the space for the bathroom better.




I kind of like the plan with the bathroom upstairs, because as you mentioned I could have a kitchen/diner.



They would both be double bedrooms, but quite small doubles.
I don't think there's any point in moving the door, but that room could still be used as the wardrobe - because of the orientation and where the rail would go, it'd be better access keeping the door where it is.

As it's a corner semi, I don't see why the waste pipes couldn't go straight out of the wall from where I've positioned the wc on the mockup.

I'd have a 3.29 x 2.9m and 2.94 x 3m bedroom
Plus 1.95 x 1.4m bathroom - which is small but would you say adequate?

Thanks for all the comments by the way

Be very, very careful. The bedrooms are barely adequate as doubles and one would certainly not be acceptable as a 'master' bed.

1.95 by 1.4 is not really enough. Your layout doesn't work. The average bath is 1.7-1.8 long. No room for the loo at the end.

Also, you can buy all sorts of sizes of shower tray, so you need one to fit that shower room properly, if that is what you are doing. Either a 1m with the wall built out or an 1100 if the tray can be cut into the wall.

While a proper bathroom upstairs is desirable, I don't see how having a kitchen diner (you have 1.8m width, not enough for chairs where you have put them) and a kid's bedroom for a master is a good balance. I do have the benefit of knowing the dimensions of usual items in a house but the chimney breasts will impinge on circulating the very small areas around the beds and you may need half depth wardrobes.

Buy a scale ruler, use a pencil and research the sizes of things like baths, beds, kitchen units and doors. Rubbers ae incredibly useful.

Presumably you have guttering on this house?!

drummer_666

zagubov wrote: »

Can you please clear something up? I got the wrong end of the stick and assumed it was a cluster house with the entrance into the small corridor leading into the kitchen and with the bathroom and living room coming off these.

Silvercar's right to suggest that the bath could go under the stairs. Putting a bath upstairs as an en-suite's a bit awkward.

The door, is the door into the garden.
It's a corner semi, so the garden is to the side and out the back.

The front door, is at the front, sorry I missed the door off the porch.
The porch is the little section at the foot of the stairs.

Doozergirl wrote: »

Also, you can buy all sorts of sizes of shower tray, so you need one to fit that shower room properly, if that is what you are doing. Either a 1m with the wall built out or an 1100 if the tray can be cut into the wall.

That small room is 1.08m long, so I'd chosen a 900mm shower tray, so that there's room for the stud wall to create space to conceal the pipework, as I tend to also do concealed showers. This is a house I'm keeping, so would def prefer a concealed shower.

Do you think that space would work as a shower room? I was thinking of doing a sunken shower tray, and with possibly a bifold door that can be left open when the shower isn't in use, to create more space when using the room as the toilet.

Having slept on it, I think the kitchen is big enough as it is anyway. I could leave the layout as it is downstairs, it;s just a shame for the waste of space where the 'corridor' to the outside door is.

Also, argh - just checked the floorplan and for somereason the bath size had changed. Doh.

And there was guttering on the last house..

phoebe1989seb

Agree with Doozer...even if you use a 1500 bath it doesn't leave space for a loo at the end. Whilst personally I prefer the idea of an upstairs bathroom - and would only buy a house without if it was guaranteed that I could fit one in - I know some people aren't as picky I'd therefore try to do as Silvercar suggested and fit the end of the bath under the stairs. This then allows for keeping a fairly decent sized master bedroom......

Doozergirl

drummer_666 wrote: »

That small room is 1.08m long, so I'd chosen a 900mm shower tray, so that there's room for the stud wall to create space to conceal the pipework, as I tend to also do concealed showers. This is a house I'm keeping, so would def prefer a concealed shower.

Do you think that space would work as a shower room?
Having slept on it, I think the kitchen is big enough as it is anyway. I could leave the layout as it is downstairs, it;s just a shame for the waste of space where the 'corridor' to the outside door is.

Also, argh - just checked the floorplan and for somereason the bath size had changed. Doh.

Fair enough, it would have been clearer if it were marked on the plan as wall.

The loo on an angle uses more space than just one with back to wall. I'd look at using one of the new loos that has the sink slightly over the cistern.

Access to the shower won't exactly be luxurious and the door has to open onto the stairs. Do not use a bi-fold as you'll need a bifold in the shower too, you'll be fighting doors all the way.

If this is your house, you need to make a list of needs and wants. Do you want two bathrooms or is one big, one small bedroom acceptable to accommodate a bathroom upstairs? Can one act as a wardrobe for you or do you need a spare room?

What's the overall budget? Is this house in the same value bracket as the last one?

drummer_666

phoebe1989seb wrote: »

Agree with Doozer...even if you use a 1500 bath it doesn't leave space for a loo at the end. Whilst personally I prefer the idea of an upstairs bathroom - and would only buy a house without if it was guaranteed that I could fit one in - I know some people aren't as picky I'd therefore try to do as Silvercar suggested and fit the end of the bath under the stairs. This then allows for keeping a fairly decent sized master bedroom......

Yes I'm not picky, hence why I bought this house So long as there was room to put in an upstairs toilet, which I knew there was.

drummer_666

Doozergirl wrote: »

Fair enough, it would have been clearer if it were marked on the plan as wall.

The loo on an angle uses more space than just one with back to wall. I'd look at using one of the new loos that has the sink slightly over the cistern.

Access to the shower won't exactly be luxurious and the door has to open onto the stairs. Do not use a bi-fold as you'll need a bifold in the shower too, you'll be fighting doors all the way.

If this is your house, you need to make a list of needs and wants. Do you want two bathrooms or is one big, one small bedroom acceptable to accommodate a bathroom upstairs? Can one act as a wardrobe for you or do you need a spare room?

What's the overall budget? Is this house in the same value bracket as the last one?

I was playing with corner loos or normal ones, was finding it hard to figure out which would create the most space. The door opening onto the stairs is fine, it's onto a space at the top of the stairs.

I meant a standard door for the door into the shower room/wc, but potentionally a bifold door / shower screen. Maybe just a pivoting shower screen?

I need a spare room, in a few years I'll most likely be renting the house out. And I might rent the spare room out for now anyway, if not I'll do some air b&b bookings.

I'd prefer to leave the bathroom downstairs if I can fit a useable shower room & toilet upstairs.

The house was 79,000, looking to spend 10,000 max on it.
Obviously I do most of the work myself and buy stuff trade.

Needs new boiler, new kitchen, new bathroom, some new doors inc back door. I'm changing the garden too. There's money left for putting the shower in, that won't cost very much