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Housing benefit to private landlords

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  • Thrugelmir
    Thrugelmir Posts: 89,546 Forumite
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    kinger101 wrote: »
    The problem with the statement is it ignores Germany which has lower unemployment and higher wage growth. And numerous countries which have lower wage growth and higher unemployment.

    Germany had no minimum wage legislation until January 2015. Immigrants were poorly paid. (Obviously happy to take whatever paid work they could). The current minimum wage isn't going to be reviewed until January 2018. The impact on German economic performance is uncertain. Though there will be some.

    There's still 6 EU countries which don't operate any minimum wage policy.
  • cells
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    mwpt wrote: »
    I would prefer it if we tried a free market approach. There is no need for housing benefit. Let people move to where they can afford. If business can't afford to hire staff in a particular location, let them pay more or move to a cheaper location. Or let rent prices drop.

    I don't like food benefits going to the big corporate food retailers

    I would prefer it if we tried a free market approach. There is no need for food benefits. Let people buy what they can afford to eat. If people can't afford to eat cake they can eat bread. If they refuse to eat bread and want cake then the supermarkets will have no choice but to produce cheaper cake or let cake prices drop
  • cells
    cells Posts: 5,246 Forumite
    I wonder if mwpt would let the free market operate in the mortgage market so more people can buy hence less housing benefits needed?

    We need a return of self cert for 10% down mortgages. And a return if 100% mortgages for non self cert borrowers
  • System
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    edited 21 August 2016 at 6:35PM
    cells wrote: »
    I wonder if mwpt would let the free market operate in the mortgage market so more people can buy hence less housing benefits needed?

    We need a return of self cert for 10% down mortgages. And a return if 100% mortgages for non self cert borrowers

    Cells - You are crazy with your crazy posts lol. Self cert mortgages should remain banned. We don't want another financial crisis.
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  • missbiggles1
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    CLAPTON wrote: »
    if you have alternative facts please do post them up
    but if you want higher wages then improvements in productivity is the only solution.

    If we want higher wages, what we need is strong trade unions and less tax credits.
  • cells wrote: »
    I don't like food benefits going to the big corporate food retailers

    I would prefer it if we tried a free market approach. There is no need for food benefits. Let people buy what they can afford to eat. If people can't afford to eat cake they can eat bread. If they refuse to eat bread and want cake then the supermarkets will have no choice but to produce cheaper cake or let cake prices drop

    The supply of housing is inelastic. The supply of food is elastic.

    C-. See me after class.
  • System
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    The supply of housing is inelastic. The supply of food is elastic.

    C-. See me after class.

    haha good post. Cells needs to do more revision....
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  • cells
    cells Posts: 5,246 Forumite
    if mwpt or anyone else really doesnt want poor people in London I feel they would have to be against social housing as well as HB

    24% of all the homes in London are social. They should be sold off

    Also housing benefit to private landlords in a lot of the country post tax probably works out cheaper than social landlords. Do the math for a higher rate taxpayer landlord in the north or midlands renting out a £500pm property who will also pay CGT and see what the net cost is
  • kinger101
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    mwpt wrote: »
    In this case, I am not convinced that housing benefit needs to exist.

    No housing benefit in any circumstances? There will always be some in society who cannot afford to put a roof over their head.
    "Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance" - Confucius
  • CLAPTON
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    If we want higher wages, what we need is strong trade unions and less tax credits.

    you don't think we actually need to produce things that people want to buy?
    maybe we can all be rich if the government simply made the minimum wage say £20 per hour.. simple
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