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House price rise boosts British wealth

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  • System
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  • BobQ
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  • cells
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    its should be obvious that houses just by their sheer number are a larger stock of capital than other things (like cars or TVs or offices or roads or port or...)
  • System
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    The wealth has been artificially created by central bankers. The housing market has been manipulated. That's my point.....

    It is imaginary wealth. The housing market is worth more than the stock market.
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  • cells
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    The wealth has been artificially created by central bankers. The housing market has been manipulated. That's my point.....

    It is imaginary wealth. The housing market is worth more than the stock market.


    There are approximately 3 million more homes in the UK today than there was in the year 2000. Is that imaginary too?
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    Eh..... What are you on about cells? How is that related to my post?

    On the housong supply side, housing completions have been manipulated to maintain or create wealth.
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    *housing

    Explain cells please
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  • michaels
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    Woohoo - imagine if house prices were to double again we could all take the next 3 years off work :)
    I think....
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    edited 19 August 2016 at 9:49AM
    cells wrote: »
    There are approximately 3 million more homes in the UK today than there was in the year 2000. Is that imaginary too?

    Did you catch the despatches programme on C4 this week?

    It examined these numbers, specifically the 100k pledge from the government in 2011.

    You've got two sets of data
    1. The government figures
    2. The reality

    The government figures simply assume that the houses that could be built on land sold by the MOD have been built. Indeed, they even included land that was already sold and already developed for other purposes (a boat yard for example was counted as something like 14 houses, where not a single house stands). They then assume that the footprint = x houses, regardless of the actual number (if any) houses built.

    So in one case, the government figures stated 16 houses have been built. Standing right outside of those houses, you see 3 have been built. 3 very plush, very large, gated houses. There was simply room for 16, so 16 are counted.

    The reality suggests out of the 100k homes, 1,650 will actually come to fruition.

    So depending on where you get your 3 million new houses from, you could be wildly out. And a finger in the air guess suggests you are. 3 million new houses would require infrastructure equaling about 2-3 new Birmingham cities. Clearly that hasn't happened.
  • wotsthat
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    It is imaginary wealth. The housing market is worth more than the stock market.

    No, it's real wealth. I assume you're an active house hunter and you'll know therefore just how real it is.

    It may rise and and it may fall but if you're waiting for a new monetary system before buying you'll be renting a long time.
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