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Notice of Keeper Liability

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I posted previously about a PCN for parking ON THE WHITE LINES OF A BAY due to another car parking skewed, and the fact I now no longer own the car. They're saying I parked not in the confines of a marked bay.

Well I ignored their first letter and they rejected my appeal. Had no contact now since May till just today. I've been sent a Notification of Keeper Liability saying I have 14 days to pay otherwise a £25 administration fee will be added to the amount and enforcement action/ county court action will be taken.

Should I pay even though I feel it's unfair and can't strictly speaking afford it without going into overdraft? I don't want court action and this affecting my credit etc. Seeing as I have now sold the car I feel this isite unfair but I don't want it to get worse?

Thanks

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  • lgfbrown
    lgfbrown Posts: 25 Forumite
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    Edit: there is no logo on this letter and no POPLA or other organisation. Not even signed by anyone.

    Plus the date of issue is 04/05/16 and I had 14 days from this date!
  • Half_way
    Half_way Posts: 7,478 Forumite
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    Who? what? where?
    If you posted previously then please add this to your previous post - impossible to follow
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    "The BPA has surely become one of the most socially dangerous organisations in the UK"
  • lgfbrown
    lgfbrown Posts: 25 Forumite
    Seventh Anniversary Combo Breaker
    Previous Timeline of events:

    30/03/16: Buy Rover 25 from well known reputable garage, admittedly without documents confirming head gasket had been done. Mate who knows about engines said it was sound after test drive.

    30/04/16: The 'incident' happens. No PCN on the windscreen.

    06/05/16: The head gasket goes. Garage give me the money back. Old owner had not given V5C to myself (had lost it!), so technically she was still owner.

    19/05/16: Buy new car. Garage present me with a postal PCN the old owner has brought in that she got (see attached). Garage help me with appeal as they see it as not worthy of a fine, for a car I don't even drive now.

    20/05/16: Appeal is, of course, rejected. (see attached)

    My issue is that the old owner will continue to receive letters, and I have read elsewhere that these 'fines' basically get forgotten about and I am unsure what to do next. I wish to pursue this appeal because it is very petty - I am causing no blockage, cars can easily get around me with no issue and the car to the right was parked slightly to the right when I arrived, so that explains the parking with the wheel. I was under the impression the white line still counted as the bay, especially with the space next to it being fine to get through. I have got landed with this weeks after for a car I don't now own and has been scrapped.


    They are saying I was not parked within a marked bay, even though I am in the bay. (Have JPEGs but can't attach onto here?)

    What do I do? Obviously I don't want to pay this but is it better to pay than avoid potential hassle or does it go away eventually? Should I contact my old owner as I have her address?


    Reply to appeal:
    Dear Mr Brown,
    Re: Parking Charge Notice Number 21046 (Vehicle: PF03XWK)
    Site: Sykes Street Car Park
    Issue date: 04/05/2016

    Thank you for your appeal received on 19/05/2016 regarding the above detailed Parking Charge Notice.
    We have reviewed the case and considered the comments that you have made. This appeal has been
    considered in conjunction with the evidence gathered by the parking attendant, retrospective evidence
    you may of supplied could not be used in the appeal decision. You were issued with a Parking Charge
    Notice for:
    Not parked fully within the confines of a marked bay and therefore agreeing to pay consideration in the
    form of a Parking Charge Notice. The signs clearly stay on site you must be fully parked within the
    confines of the marked bay. The signs clearly state that if you remain on site and do not adhere to the
    terms and conditions you agree to pay a consideration Parking Charge Notice of £100.
    We are therefore unable to cancel the Parking Charge Notice as it was issued correctly.we have now
    extended the amount of time you have to pay by 21 days, please now make payment of £60 to reach us
    by 03/06/2016 or £100 to reach us by 10/06/2016.
    You now have two options:
    1. You can pay the total amount due as shown above within the next 21 days.
    Online: (ADDRESS REMOVED DUE TO FORUM CONSTRAINTS) Phone: 01616672215
    By Post: Send cash/cheque/postal order to- Parking Awareness Services, 23 King Street, Blackpool,
    Lancashire, FY1 3EJ.
    2. If you believe this decision is incorrect, you are entitled to appeal to the Independent Appeals Service
    (IAS). In order to appeal the IAS will need your parking charge number, your vehicle registration and the
    date the charge was originally issued. Appeals must be submitted to the IAS within 21 days of the date of
    this letter. For further information please visit Please be advised that If you do decide to
    appeal to IAS the option to pay the discounted amount will not longer be available and the full amount of
    the PCN will be due, if your appeal is rejected by IAS
  • Browntoa
    Browntoa Posts: 49,607 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    Half_way wrote: »
    Who? what? where?
    If you posted previously then please add this to your previous post - impossible to follow


    would be easier as they say not to start a new thread on the same subject


    post in this one


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  • mcjordi
    mcjordi Posts: 4,238 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    you may want to edit out the reg and surname from your post fella
    Sealed pot challenger # 10
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  • Redx
    Redx Posts: 38,084 Forumite
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    and the pcn number too

    best to copy and paste the above into your previous PAS thread , minus the personal info

    as its an IPC member , only a judge could sort it all out
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