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  • Undervalued
    Undervalued Posts: 9,587 Forumite
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    questionss wrote: »
    Sounds like he views the garden as his as he's on the ground floor. I'd avoid taking the dog in there but I would try and make full use of the garden yourselves.

    That is almost inevitable in such situations. There are some very similar sounding properties near me and knowing several of the owners or tenants I have seen the same issues.

    Regardless of what is written down, the other occupiers are always going to be at a disadvantage compared with the person who's door opens directly into the garden. You have got to try and keep relationships civil if it is humanly possible.

    That said I would certainly be very unhappy for a shared garden to be used as a dog's toilet.
  • sderrick
    sderrick Posts: 24 Forumite
    questionss wrote: »
    Sounds like he views the garden as his as he's on the ground floor. I'd avoid taking the dog in there but I would try and make full use of the garden yourselves.


    Nail on the head!


    Appreciate the responses , and I agree with some of the comments. I let her out to wee every morning/evening etc in the front garden but it just so happened to be one time I walk her through the garden she stopped to wee and he flipped out.


    And I understand the argument "they shouldn't have to put up with a dog if they didn't choose to have " but I have it agreed with the his landlord and others that dogs are allowed otherwise I wouldn't have bought the place.


    It says in the lease that dogs are allowed aslong as they are not a nuisance....she doesn't bark but she has biological needs!
  • Undervalued
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    sderrick wrote: »
    Nail on the head!


    Appreciate the responses , and I agree with some of the comments. I let her out to wee every morning/evening etc in the front garden but it just so happened to be one time I walk her through the garden she stopped to wee and he flipped out.


    And I understand the argument "they shouldn't have to put up with a dog if they didn't choose to have " but I have it agreed with the his landlord and others that dogs are allowed otherwise I wouldn't have bought the place.


    It says in the lease that dogs are allowed aslong as they are not a nuisance....she doesn't bark but she has biological needs!

    The trouble is that is such a grey area and ultimately a court would have to rule what is or is not a nuisance. Even assuming you won your are unfortunately still living next door to an aggrieved neighbour.
  • johannalf88
    johannalf88 Posts: 2,827 Forumite
    I can't believe how many people are saying that they don't like the dog peeing on the lawn!! Maybe I am biased (as I have a dog), but what makes a dog pee difference from a fox, cat, squirrel etc, or bird poo? How would you know if you sat in fox wee or dog wee? Maybe he thinks some fox poo is the dog poo and you didn't pick it up? So is extra annoyed?

    If she was doing a number 2 and you didn't pick it up that would be disgusting, but just a quick pee??
    :T
  • Undervalued
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    I can't believe how many people are saying that they don't like the dog peeing on the lawn!! Maybe I am biased (as I have a dog), but what makes a dog pee difference from a fox, cat, squirrel etc, or bird poo? How would you know if you sat in fox wee or dog wee? Maybe he thinks some fox poo is the dog poo and you didn't pick it up? So is extra annoyed?

    If she was doing a number 2 and you didn't pick it up that would be disgusting, but just a quick pee??

    Well legally your are responsible for what your dog does. The law regards the others as wild animals.

    Suppose somebody allowed (or even encouraged) their child to pee on a shared lawn, how would you regard that?
  • missbiggles1
    missbiggles1 Posts: 17,481 Forumite
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    I can't believe how many people are saying that they don't like the dog peeing on the lawn!! Maybe I am biased (as I have a dog), but what makes a dog pee difference from a fox, cat, squirrel etc, or bird poo? How would you know if you sat in fox wee or dog wee? Maybe he thinks some fox poo is the dog poo and you didn't pick it up? So is extra annoyed?

    If she was doing a number 2 and you didn't pick it up that would be disgusting, but just a quick pee??

    That's what I was going to say - all sorts of animals pee and poo in the garden, as long as you pick up the dog's, that's all anybody can ask.
  • missbiggles1
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    Well legally your are responsible for what your dog does. The law regards the others as wild animals.

    Suppose somebody allowed (or even encouraged) their child to pee on a shared lawn, how would you regard that?

    I wouldn't be bothered, I'm sure kids do that all the time when they're young.

    I wouldn't care if all the blokes pee outside at a party, either.
  • johannalf88
    johannalf88 Posts: 2,827 Forumite
    Well a child can use a toilet, so not really the same, a dog is supposed to go outside. If the only difference is that a dog is not a wild animal, but a cat is, then surely it is a difference of semantics, both are pets, both pee, but one is often on a lead. If you had a cat on a lead and it pee'd (I have actually seen a cat on a lead :rotfl: ) would he still complain about the peeing?

    I still think there must be some underlying confusion, would you really get into an argument over a dog peeing on a shared lawn?
    :T
  • Undervalued
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    I still think there must be some underlying confusion, would you really get into an argument over a dog peeing on a shared lawn?

    Not with a one off such as the OP describes.

    However I have seen a situation where a dog owner regularly allowed / encouraged their dog to use a shared area as its toilet rather than taking it about 25 yards through a gate to their private garden. I was not a party to the shared land so I kept out of it. Had I been I would certainly have objected.
  • johannalf88
    johannalf88 Posts: 2,827 Forumite
    I think it is far enough if there is a private garden, in that case courtesy would be to use the private garden, but if you need to access it through a shared garden the dog may just go while on the way. It does not appear this is the case though.
    :T
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