Ukpc - scs law lba

Tinytottarn

Hello all,

I've read the newbies sticky note and looked through various threads to find something with a similar scenario but nothing is similar.
Myself and my colleagues and several other shop owners and workers have all been using a area behind our work place (we're in a row) for a long time. UKPC have placed signs up in the past but the next day they have been removed.
Just like a lot of people I ignored UKPC, ignored DRP and ignored Zenith. Then a few days ago I came home to a letter from SCS Law (which was kindly sent 2nd class so has made the 14 days now just 7) The letter states "We act for UKPC and are instructed to recover the charges shown below incurred by you in relation to your vehicle"
Then there are 5 charges each at £160 amounting to £960 with the contravention "parking for longer than the allowed time, as per the signage."
Then underneath the warning in bold "Unless payment is made within the next 14 days we are instructed to issue court proceedings to recover the same and any of our clients' legal costs, without any further recourse to you." then they kindly advise me what county court judgements are and what they do to your credit history etc etc.

What I need advice on is the circumstances.

1) There are no signs on our buildings saying we cannot park there, the nearest one is so far away you would think it applied to a completely different area behind a different shop. HOWEVER, there are signs above a yellow hashed area which no one parks on anyway so as far as I'm concerned it doesn't apply to the normal area everyone uses to park on.
2) The man that has issued these tickets in the past has taken bribes from others who have wanted to avoid tickets, so now he leaves them alone (which I refuse to do).
3) There are often 6+ cars parked out there and he will turn up and only issue one with a ticket?! This and they don't even attend the area every day,so I have one for every month yet I park here every day, essentially there's just no consistency.
4) The landowner is clearly not making a loss if UKPC don't attend the area every day?!
5) The sign that they've tried to use as evidence "near" my car is 20-30 meters up the alley above a door, so not at eye level, possibly 9ft-10ft up a wall? (and is attached to the back of a completely different building, so you can not even see it when they've taken the photos of my car.)
6) This said sign has no details of "overstaying time" it just says no unauthorized parking.

I genuinely did not know this was an issue until I got the first ticket but then I thought, what can they do? There are no visible signs, they turn up inconsistently and take bribes so I thought I would just ignore all the letters.

What shall I do please, I'm happy to fight this as I believe I have the grounds to. I don't want to go to court as its agg I don't need or want, but if it saves me £960 I will of course go and fight my case :rotfl:
Please advise on the next steps and if you think I have grounds to argue or if there are any other grounds for defense I can use.
Contact UKPC for all their evidence, contact SCS with all UKPC's flaws or just tell them I deny any debt to them and see what they say?

Thanks!

The_Deep

If they are daft enough to perist be sure the judge sees this

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  UKPC are former clampers who have been involved in quite a number of sordid scams, for example
  
  Hull Trading Standards took them to court on 15 counts of fraud. UKPC won all but one, but only because they had a better lawyer, a Q.C. If I recall correctly
  
  http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=63597
  
  They were bested by a Winchester barrister
  http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?377246-UKPC-liable-for-trespass-**SUCCESS**
  
  They were involved in a large scale scam which resulted in a DVLA suspension
  
  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11858473/Parking-firm-UKPC-admits-faking-tickets-to-fine-drivers.html
  
  They are in trouble in court
  
  http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co.uk/search?updated-min=2016-01-01T00:00:00-08:00&updated-max=2017-01-01T00:00:00-08:00&max-results=50
  
  And then of course there was Tracey Kiss
  
  http://www.tracykiss.com/product-reviews/my-ukpc-parking-charge/

Redx

send a GAN debt denial letter to SCS denying the debt (see pepipoo forums)

ie:- treat SCS law letters as an LBC and follow LBCCC fightback ground rules

only a judge can decide if you have a good case, and it hasnt got that far yet

Fruitcake

The_Deep wrote: »

They are in trouble in court

http://parking-prankster.blogspot.co.uk/search?updated-min=2016-01-01T00:00:00-08:00&updated-max=2017-01-01T00:00:00-08:00&max-results=50

And then of course there was Tracey Kiss

That link refers to MIL, not UKPC as far as I can see.

Tinytottarn

Does this seem legitimate and firm enough to send?

Dear Sirs,

RE: Your reference xxx

I am writing to confirm acknowledgment of your letter dated xx/xx/xx

I deny any debt owed to UKPC.

I have not responded due to the fact that your client; UKPC have been exposed in the papers for using fraudulent altered evidence in an attempt to try and extort PCN money from innocent motorists and were banned by the DVLA from receiving/using keepers' data for a long time in 2015.

Furthermore, as an unrepresented citizen with no education in law it is concerning for me to inform you that your Letter Before Claim is not complaint with the Practice Direction;

1) You have stated the amount owed to UKPC but according to Paragraph 6 of the Practice Directions you must explain how any money amounts claimed is calculated. In light of this please provide a breakdown.

2) Paragraph 6 also requires you to provide any and all key documents relevant to the issue in dispute. Therefore, if there are further documents that you intend to rely on in progression of this dispute, please provide them to me in your reply.

Furthermore I do not accept that Alternative Dispute Resolution is not available and I invite you to start that process in order to resolve this issue.

Please provide a fully compliant Letter Before Action and I will provide my response as required by the Practice Direction. Please respond within 14 days of the date of this letter. Further failure to meet the requirements of the Practice Direction may require the intervention of the Court to apply whichever sanctions it seems fit in this dispute.

I will also take this opportunity to reminded that your failure to adhere to the Practice Direction is in breach of the SRA Principles and I will copy all correspondence to them in any complaint I make about your conduct.

Kind regards,

The registered keeper

Herzlos

Sounds good