Flying with kids on Ryanair? From next month you MUST pay £4 for an allocated seat

melanzana

At last those with families are being treated the same as us solos.

I refused to move (well I would wouldn't I lol) when a stroppy parent asked me (demanded, I am being kind) to accommodate her and her brood one time.

I just looked up from my kindle and asked "did you prebook your priority seat and pay for it like I did?" And went back to my book.

The entitlement culture would only be changed if Ryanair insisted on it. Good on them. Equality for all I say.

There are plenty of other airlines around don't forget. Choice is for the parents.

peachyprice

This is why I always pay extra for emergency exit seats, preferably front row, a cast iron guarantee that I won't have to deal with somebody else's brat.

agarnett

peachyprice wrote: »

This is why I always pay extra for emergency exit seats, preferably front row, a cast iron guarantee that I won't have to deal with somebody else's brat.

I think you deceive yourself. A Ryanair 737-800 packs in 189 not particularly spacious seats into 33 rows, none of which have reclining facilities.

peachyprice wrote: »

This is why I always pay extra for emergency exit seats, preferably front row, a cast iron guarantee that I won't have to deal with somebody else's brat.

I think you deceive yourself. A Ryanair 737-800 packs in 189 not particularly spacious seats into 33 rows, none of which have reclining facilities.

Booking an emergency exit row will not prevent you hearing the brats in front of you or behind you, and it will not prevent some big 100kg plus smelly person booking the seat next to you and insisting their elbows sit on the divider between you and not yours!

It will not prevent your seat being jolted by brats feet from behind (unless you always book row 16 and not 17). And if you choose 16 it will not prevent nose-dripping smiley brats climbing up from row 15 in front, turning round and beaming at you when you least appreciate it (which reading between the lines is probably always?).

Nope, if you really were clever, it'd be you who booked another airline with equipment that has a larger fuselage and therefore wider and reclinable seats and a better feeling of airiness all round perhaps e.g. Lufthansa with A321s?

But you are a money saving expert like the parents of the kids try to be. So you fly Ryanair. So do I usually, but I do try to get on with my fellow passengers and understand their stresses, because I'm a regular Ryanair traveller, and lots of them are not. So, at least when I am travelling alone, and sometimes when I am not, I usually manage to blag for free one of the seats you so easily pay for

But it has not prevented me offering it up to someone who needs it more than me, and I easily am sensitive to stressed mothers with extra kids on their hands, and to families who are struggling to sit together or somewhere close anyway.

I find it is nicer to to be nice and to help, rather than to hog your seat like some angry self-approving gorilla and spend your flight in a state of indeterminate schadenfreude, staring straight ahead or into your book or iPad thinking over and over just how right and clever you are, and how silly your fellow humans are!

The over-stressed cabin staff appreciate it, and when you travel as often as I do, its likely you might get to know one or two and blagging your exit row seat successfully for free instead of coughing up for it anonymously and commercially will tend to be that much more assured!

I too had noticed how Ryanair have recently decided to promote their reserved seating policy in a scaremongering way i.e. overtly implying that you are otherwise unlikely to be able to sit with your fellow travel group members, and I disagree with it.

As my kids are now well grown, but don't yet have kids of their own, I did not know that Ryanair makes it compulsory for kids under twelve to cause a surcharge to be levied on at least one adult. That's mean and unnecessary when you consider the enormous fares that Ryanair now manage to charge compared to ten years ago when we managed to travel with the two kids for 1p each leg each and my credit card bills showed 8p to Ryanair for the four of us return! (on more than one occasion).

Ryanair cornered the market big time by starving the competition out of existence, largely by any publicity is good publicity stunts, driving down working conditions, getting airports to pay them to fly passengers to them, and by appealing to conceited clever-dicks and rabble-rousers who make up large parts of our society, and who don't much care for the troubles of other passengers around them because they must deserve it. That's pretty typical of average UK scarcely existent neighbourliness, unless some disenchanted young idiot acting alone of course (because alone is how we act when we think we are cleverer than the rest) decides in madness to shake things up by blowing himself up or driving on the pavement, and then everyone indignantly stands together and starts blaming some plural "them", don't they? Then the populace soon enough goes back to blaming unfortunates for their own daily troubles with such things as ineptitude in reserving airline seats. Nice.


But back to Ryanair. In 2017 they rake it in charging "proper" fares which not too many MSE'ers admit to paying as often as they do actually now pay them.

"Always getting better" as their slogan has been generally a true reflection of their about-turn of style of customer service started about 2½ years ago. But I guess that it had gone a bit quiet on Ryanair in these threads when there was little to keep complaining about, so they've gone back to "Any publicity is Good Publicity" in order to remind those undecideds who are still around, that their routes have to be checked first for anyone who seriously wants to travel in a money saving way

Booking an emergency exit row will not prevent you hearing the "brats" in front of you or behind you, and it will not prevent some big 100kg plus smelly person booking the seat next to you and insisting their elbows sit on the divider between you and not yours!

It will not prevent your seat being jolted by "brats" feet from behind (unless you always book row 16 and not 17). And if you choose 16 it will not prevent nose-dripping smiley "brats" climbing up from row 15 in front, turning round and beaming at you when you least appreciate it (which reading between the lines is probably always?).

Nope, if you really were clever, it'd be you who booked another airline with equipment that has a larger fuselage and therefore somewhat wider and reclinable seats and a better feeling of airiness all round perhaps e.g. Lufthansa with A321s?

But you are a money saving expert like the parents of the kids try to be. So you fly Ryanair. So do I usually, but I do try to get on with my fellow passengers and understand their stresses, because I'm a regular Ryanair traveller, and lots of them are not. So, at least when I am travelling alone, and sometimes when I am not, I usually manage to blag for free one of the seats you so easily pay for

But it has not prevented me offering it up to someone who needs it more than me, and I easily am sensitive to stressed mothers with extra kids on their hands, and to families who are struggling to sit together or somewhere close anyway.

I find it is nicer to to be nice and to help, rather than to hog your seat like some angry self-approving gorilla and spend your flight in a state of indeterminate schadenfreude, staring straight ahead or into your book or iPad thinking over and over just how right and clever you are, and how silly your fellow humans are!

The over-stressed cabin staff appreciate it, and when you travel as often as I do, its likely you might get to know one or two and blagging your exit row seat successfully for free instead of coughing up for it anonymously and commercially will tend to be that much more assured!

I too had noticed how Ryanair have recently decided to promote their reserved seating policy in a scaremongering way i.e. overtly implying that you are likely to be able to sit with your fellow travel group members, and I disagree with it.

As my kids are now well grown, but don't yet have kids of their own, I did not know that Ryanair makes it compulsory for kids under twelve to cause a surcharge to be levied on at least one adult. That's mean and unnecessary when you consider the enormous fares that Ryanair now manage to charge compared to ten years ago when we managed to travel with the two kids for 1p each leg each and my credit card bills showed 8p to Ryanair for the four of us return! (on more than one occasion).

Ryanair cornered the market big time by starving the competition out of existence, largely by any publicity is good publicity stunts, driving down working conditions, getting airports to pay them to fly passengers to them, and by appealing to conceited clever-dicks and rabble-rousers who make up large parts of our society. Now they rake it in charging "proper" fares which not too many MSE'ers admit to paying as often as they do actually now pay them.

"Always getting better" as their slogan has been generally a true reflection of their about-turn of style of customer service started about 2½ years ago. But I guess that it had gone a bit quiet on Ryanair in these threads when there was little to keep complaining about, so they've gone back to "Any publicity is Good Publicity" in order to remind those undecideds who are still around, that their routes have to be checked first for anyone who seriously wants to travel in a money saving way

Oh, and I almost forgot, if you have read this far, do all try to come to your senses before June 8th and remember to get out and Vote Labour - For the Many, Not the Few!

Browntoa

you buy the right to a seat on a Ryanair flight , not the right to sit together


if you want the right to sit together then pay the extra or use an airline that's more "accommodating" to your demands .


I'd pay extra NOT to sit next to ANY child either in the next seat, same row and rows behind and in front me .

agarnett

Browntoa wrote: »

I'd pay extra NOT to sit next to ANY child either in the next seat, same row and rows behind and in front me .

Good luck with that. If you fly at all, and you are not the boss of Harrods or an Arab Sheik, or Donald Trump, you have already paid to take your place in some kind of mostly sealed sardine can, rebreathing air that has passed through some interesting lungs and digestive tracts I bet, never mind what the "brats" and parents look like on the outsides!

Browntoa

it will come , if airline can fill a flight with premium paying passengers on a "child free flight" then they will . Its already happening to some all Inclusive resorts where they are either child free or have child free areas .


http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/major-airline-launches-child-free-9001605


Budget airline IndiGo is banning under 12s from eight rows of seats, prompting parents’ fears that other carriers may do the same

Browntoa

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/article-2621402/Babies-planes-70-cent-Britons-want-child-free-zones-aircraft.html


70 per cent of Britons want to see child-free zones introduced on planes


More than a third of us would pay extra to be on a flight without children

agarnett

I was at a nice adults only hotel in the Balearics recently (got there in a relatively spacious Lufthansa A321), but having secured an upgrade to a great higher room with a full sea view balcony, I couldn't help smile at the brand new local authority children's playground right next to our swimming pool compound, and one night had to go out and close all the double doors in the corridors in the small hours leading to a rooftop wedding celebration where the adults were making more noise than any kids!

Life is like a box of chocolates ...

Generally though, I'd too would pay extra - to be free from breathing in the gases of old farts! But then I might be one of those involuntarily denied boarding :rotfl: