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Bought a car with a false MOT?!

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  • Minrich
    Minrich Posts: 635 Forumite
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    The Service book says that the brakes were changed when I bought the car.

    The garage I know and trust said that the pads are worn so much and taking into account that I have only done 6K miles, that were most likely too worn to pass the previous MOT. Which is what the garage I bought the car from said, hence them saying they changed them.
    k3lvc wrote: »
    Depending on the car/driving style it's not too difficult to wear a set in that mileage

    Alternatively is it a Yaris you have ?

    New Rear Brake pads worn to 1.5mm in 6000 miles , no chance
  • facade
    facade Posts: 7,620 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    edited 1 August 2016 at 12:31PM
    Minrich wrote: »
    New Rear Brake pads worn to 1.5mm in 6000 miles , no chance

    Drive around with the handbrake on?

    Carry a lot of weight in the back so the rear brakes can work harder?

    Get the new brake pads from a cheap internet source and they are made of compressed cardboard?

    Alternatively, it could have separate shoes/pads for the handbrake and these were changed to get the handbrake through the MOT, but the brake pads were above 1.5mm then, and they didn't post an advisory.

    If the pads were above 1.5mm 6000 miles ago it would have passed, so it is hardly a false MOT.
    I want to go back to The Olden Days, when every single thing that I can think of was better.....

    (except air quality and Medical Science ;))
  • Even if the explicitly told me that it would have failed if they had not replaced the pads?
  • bod1467
    bod1467 Posts: 15,214 Forumite
    If it's not in writing, it didn't happen. If they told you (verbally) but didn't confirm in writing (or you didn't confirm in writing the conversation contents) then it didn't happen - they didn't say it.

    Go on - how are you going to prove it?
  • bigadaj
    bigadaj Posts: 11,531 Forumite
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    bod1467 wrote: »
    If it's not in writing, it didn't happen. If they told you (verbally) but didn't confirm in writing (or you didn't confirm in writing the conversation contents) then it didn't happen - they didn't say it.

    Go on - how are you going to prove it?

    It's all gone a bit lock, stock....
  • A lot of issues here

    firstly the MOT tested cant remover anything during the MOT, therefore is it difficult to know how much thickness material is left, as the caliper hole to see the pads is hidden by the wheel.

    Its still perfectly possible to pass with low brake material, as long as there some material the car will brake as good as a new pad, its the caliper pushing the pads on the material. i.e. 10mm pads and 1.5mm do the same thing, although I personally would change them by now

    my guess would be the garage said they will the pads (as written on the invoice) but they did not, there is no way rear (or front) pads would wear down to 1.5mm in 6000 miles, the rears do very little braking, my Hyundai i10 was still well over have after 15000 miles (around 5mm)


    [FONT=&quot]but how is the OP going to prove they were not changed, the garage could claim the OP changed them during their ownership.

    I doubt the original MOT was dodgy, I think the OP has to move on and change them themselves or their trustworthy garage change them[/FONT]
  • bod1467
    bod1467 Posts: 15,214 Forumite
    bigadaj wrote: »
    it's all gone a bit lock, stock....

    :) .
  • bigjl
    bigjl Posts: 6,457 Forumite
    The Service book says that the brakes were changed when I bought the car.

    The garage I know and trust said that the pads are worn so much and taking into account that I have only done 6K miles, that were most likely too worn to pass the previous MOT. Which is what the garage I bought the car from said, hence them saying they changed them.

    Servicing the rear brakes doesn't mean the pads have been changed.

    It means the pads have been removed, the Caliper and usuall back plate cleaned, the pads deglazed if needed and then replaced with an application of brake anti squeal paste.

    Not sure why this new poster feels the need to use a misleading title.

    Must be school holidays
  • bigjl
    bigjl Posts: 6,457 Forumite
    Even if the explicitly told me that it would have failed if they had not replaced the pads?

    Why would the car fail?


    A car can pass the MOT brake test with brake pads worn almost to the metal.
  • Strider590
    Strider590 Posts: 11,874 Forumite
    It is true that a dealer MOT isn't worth the paper it's printed on, if they're trying to sell a car, it won't fail the MOT.
    “I may not agree with you, but I will defend to the death your right to make an a** of yourself.”

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